Econoburn First Fire Tips please

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b33p3r

Feeling the Heat
Jan 29, 2008
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NE Pa
Should be firing up the econo-150 this Sunday/Monday for the first time. It's long over due and not being a plumber/pipe fitter by trade,it's been an interesting project. I have to drain my oil boiler to modify my pex connections. I'm figuring while the oil boiler is cold, that would be the time to bring the Econo online? That way I would avoid any cold shock to the oil boiler? Any other advice/tips or suggestions when I fire up the econo?
 
Congratulations ! If they don't have recommendation in the manual I would suggest to start with a couple small controllable fires and work up from there. You will probably get some off gassing of paint and oil for the first couple of fires too. Don't think you can go wrong by taking it easy at first.
 
Way to go Beeper - all of us who have been through one of these big projects know how good it feels to be finally firing up. It's not unusual for the first fires to be not-so-great, due to the refractory needing to dry out. +1 on the small fires at first. Lots of small kindling helps get the fire going fast. Don't try to put larger splits on until a good fire is underway. Stay with the boiler and check that things are happening as they should (near loop circ off at 155, fan dropping to low speed at your target water temp, etc.). If you can make sure there are no calls for heat, then you will be able to see how much heat is being lost in the loop from the WB to the OB (after it circulates for a while). You would need someone in the house on the phone reading the OB temp at the same time you watch the WB temp (the gauge on the side, not the front). After that you can open the zones one at a time to see what the effect each has on the system. You want to make sure something doesn't cause the return to the WB to drop below 140* while it's running hot (you will need an IR gun, or some other way to measure the pipe temps). It would also be good to test your power out/overheat loop as soon as possible. Post anything that appears to be a problem, and make sure your plumber will be available if necessary. Good luck with it!
 
Great info above. Lots of dry kindling. Get boiler and water within warmed up in good shape before pulling back(closing) bypass flap and going for gasification. Helps to warm up chimney for good draft. Don't be suprised, as Willwork noted above if the first fire acts strangly. Good luck and Enjoy!
 
Thanks for all the advice and heads up about strange first fires. A strange fire probably would have had me a little nervous not knowing how these things act. I have some help available to me Monday so Monday it is. He has an OWB so he'll be a great help. Like you mentioned, I'll be able to have a set of eyes on both boilers. I figure I'll burn the kerosene heater in the shed Sunday night so everything is warmed up some. Still, small fires it is!
I'll post back with results. Thanks for the encouragement and all the help along the way.
 
Here's a few more thoughts.

1. Don't be surprised if you see some dripping creosote on the very first burn. Your water is cold, you will condense smoke out until you get up to temps. With your return water control, this should be minimized....but since you are so cold initially, don't be surprised. It will go away when you are warm and burn up...

2. My experience with an IR gun on copper has been very poor. Maybe I bought a cheap unit (I did indeed!) but it doesn't seem to give me anything i can really believe. I bought a multimeter with a thermistor that I can tape to a pipe with a piece of Aluminium tape...and I believe that much more. I can walk around with the same piece of tape and thermistor and monitor temps in various places, using the same thermistor. $50 at sears, clamp on meter model. Yet another cost to add to the overall system! It never seems to end....I just installed a Garn.

Bruce
 
Just as a note, the IR guns don't work well on shiny or reflective surfaces. I put masking tape on my pipes where I want to take readings, and get much better results.
 
Thanks for the masking tape idea Twitch I have been doing some headscratching mysely on how these things work
 
Same problem with the IR gun. I was thinking flat spray paint (I have some) in the place I want to monitor. Tape is easier.

Good luck with the burn. It took me a week or two before I could make consistent fires. Now it is pretty routine although I do forget a step once in a while (like closing the bypass).
 
I got to thinking last night....yes that's probably a bad thing according to my wife. I had a "Heat Manager" control on my oil boiler. I took it off the oil boiler now that I'm tying the WB in. Only because I don't know how the heat manager controls and my home made WB boiler controls will interact. I haven't sat down and figured it out yet. Good project for the winter months. Anyone have any experience with the heat manager? Could I use it to my advantage with the wood boiler? If nothing else I already have two temp sensors I used with the heat manager. Is there a digital display that I could buy that the sensors would plug into and display the temps on supply/return? Just thoughts.
 
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