just avoided chimney fire!! Advice please

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jvedo

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Dec 21, 2009
10
new york
this has never happened before and i almost sh*#T my pants, my heart is still pounding!

tonight i loaded up my dutchwest like i do every night before we go to bed, i usually wait about a half hour before i close the damper and let the slow burn all night. I got caught up in another room when i smelled that stove burning hot as hell. i ran to the living room there was light smoke and the stove was at 1400 on the pipe and probably 800 on the stove top. I shut the damper and turned the air valve all the way down. Went out side and there it was, sparks at the top of my chimney. They weren't shooting out but I could see a few make it to the top of the opening. The flue pipes were not red inside or outside, i went up into the attic where the flue is and that seemed to be fine. that was about an hour ago. My stove is still full and burning the pipe is at 800 and the stove top at 480. Chimney seems clear and everything has calmed down but i'm scared to go to sleep. is there a chance this could happen during the night? The stove and pipe are only going to get cooler as the night goes on but still shakey. Any input, advice.. appreciate it.
By the way i have a Dutchwest non cat, 2477, fourth season burning, double insulated pipe which goes through the attic and outside, clean and sweep twice a season, burn about 3-4 cords, always dry hardwoods.
thanks again.
 
sounds more like it just had too much air as the intake and damper were wide open..... so it was just burning at a fast rate.... if the chimney is clean, then it could be just "over-firing" or too much drafting after the fire got going....is the chimney diameter and height correct? probably just need to "tune" the intake and damper combination--just my thoughts
 
Welcome to the forum jvedo.

You just had a wake-up call big time! You are also a very lucky man. For sure you have to have learned a valuable lesson with this lapse.


In the first place, I don't see why you feel you have to let the stove burn with full draft for 30 minutes. It simply should not need that much time. Besides, 30 minutes is a long time and it would be too easy to become distracted. We have a hard and fast rule here. Whoever loads the stove stays with the stove until the draft is turned down and all is set for a long burn. That does not take 30 minutes but can vary depending upon the fuel and the weather.

For some peach of mind, you maybe should try the trick of setting a timer to go off, say at 15 minutes (or perhaps sooner). If the fire is not going good enough by then, set it for another 5 minutes. That timer won't let you forget. Make sure you get a timer with a loud beeper too.

Now you also need to make sure your stove and chimney are still okay and they probably are. Still check for any cracks, warpage, etc.
 
I agree with Dennis . . . my main concern would be leaving the draft fully open for a half hour . . . that is quite long.

For your own "plum" or "peach" of mind as Dennis puts it ;) I would check the chimney and stove very carefully before firing up.
 
Jake, that was not a misprint! ;-)
 
Backwoods Savage said:
Jake, that was not a misprint! ;-)

Ah . . . I'm always typing the wrong word . . . darn fat fingers. ;)
 
Take a chain and put one end on the stove and tie the other end around your leg when you have the damper fully open. :cheese:
EDIT- chain not longer than 10 feet
 
i get confused......i let my stove go for hours sometimes fully throttled.....hell its been going for about an hour and a half now..no probs....
 
steeltowninwv said:
i get confused......i let my stove go for hours sometimes fully throttled.....hell its been going for about an hour and a half now..no probs....

I do too, but not with a full, well seasoned, ready to go to bed load. Heck mines been running full air for 2 hours right now, but only has 1 split in it. If I filled it up with 6-7 splits on a good coal bed.. would be very hot and scary in about 20 minutes or less.. My normal morning routine when it's really cold out, under, say, 20°F, is to load it up pretty good when I get up, then walk the dogs. usually takes me 15 minutes max to walk through the back woods, a bit more if we see some deer or quail or something.. the stove is almost always ready to turn down, or if not it will be by the time I am done feeding them.
 
With proper wood is there really any good reason to wait longer than 10-15 min. to throttle it down? I really can't think of one but each stove has it's own personality I suppose.
Joe
 
I think you learned your lesson.
 
yeah that sounds about like i do.....not really dry wood..some is some isnt....and sometimes i even throw a green splt or 2 on....mine is never loaded for bear when i let it go full throttle...i dont have one of the new epa stoves.i think if i burned nothing but really dry wood id go thru about 30 pickup loads a season..
 
steeltowninwv said:
yeah that sounds about like i do.....not really dry wood..some is some isnt....and sometimes i even throw a green splt or 2 on....mine is never loaded for bear when i let it go full throttle...i dont have one of the new epa stoves.i think if i burned nothing but really dry wood id go thru about 30 pickup loads a season..
You do know it takes more green wood (have to burn off the moisture) than dry wood for the same amount of heat.
 
steeltowninwv said:
i get confused......i let my stove go for hours sometimes fully throttled.....hell its been going for about an hour and a half now..no probs....

Me too but my wood is not properly seasoned.
 
so they say but i dont always need major heat after i get up and throw on a few dry splits and get the heat rolling thats when i throw on some green and let it cruise
 
steeltowninwv said:
so they say but i dont always need major heat after i get up and throw on a few dry splits and get the heat rolling thats when i throw on some green and let it cruise

Burned like that on a non EPA stove for over 20yrs for 15 of those it was the only heat we had. But my dry wood was 4 - 6 months and my green was under a month. Id get that old stove red hot sometimes. cleaned chimmney once ayear never had a problem with creastos. coffe can or so every year. Im just here sit back and try to learn my new stove. not saying anything I did in the past was correct, just thats what i did. Sometimes would cut down tree cut to lengths and split burn all in same day.
 
When I started burning wood some 33 years ago I burnt some green wood and it SUCKED big time, never did it again.
 
Just got in and have not been able to read the responses but i will tonight, right after i get the stove started.
 
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