Quadra Fire Voyageur First Impressions

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Piper506

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Oct 15, 2010
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Eastern PA
First time poster but long time reader. We are preparing to purchase a replacement wood insert for the coming winter and had narrowed down our selection to 2 inserts before going to our local Quadra Fire dealer and saw their new Voyageur insert. It is a beautiful looking insert comparable to the Vermont Castings Montpelier or Jotul C550 as far as looks (flush mount cast iron). Appears the unit uses 2 damper controls, which may take some getting used to from our previous single control stove.

Needless to say, wife was instantly sold, and did not want to look at anything else. This is making it very difficult to justify getting a insert with a larger firebox, proven unit track record, etc. Was planning on using whatever unit we end up with for primary heating of approx. 1700 sq ft ranch house in Eastern PA, so I feel a larger unit would be better suited for our needs.

Was wondering if anyone has seen/owns this unit and can provide feedback on initial usage?
 
I am looking at Inserts; I am very interested in which one you choose. Also, can anyone comment on the blower noise on the Montpelier? Has it improved since it was first released or is it still quite Loud?
 
Did you take note to the firebox size on that unit. I think it is something like 1.35 cubic ft. The rule of thumb is you need 2 cubic ft to get an all night burn. I cant remember what they were rating the heat out put at on it, but the other unit you mentioned the C-550 is larger and may give you more heat and burn time. It is a very attractive unit though...i see where your wife is coming from.
 
1.83 cubic feet.
 
I was quoting what I read out of the lit i was shown on the insert..... maybe there was a typo?
 
Don't know. I was looking at the Quad brochure.
 
jotulguy said:
The rule of thumb is you need 2 cubic ft to get an all night burn.

Nah. My Quad is 1.4ish cu ft. and does it easily burning pine. An "all-night burn" (i.e. enough hot coals in the morning to restart) has more to do with controlling the air flow through the stove than anything else. If your stove's secondaries are "always on" then you need a bigger firebox (i.e. bigger pile of coals to start with) to counteract that.
 
Piper506 said:
Was planning on using whatever unit we end up with for primary heating of approx. 1700 sq ft ranch house in Eastern PA, so I feel a larger unit would be better suited for our needs.

I agree, but at 1.83 cu ft, I think this firebox could almost be your primary heater. If it was going to be your sole heater, probably not. (Most folks prefer erring to the larger size, anyway.) It really depends on how willing you are to use your other source of heat, and on especially on how well you are insulated - that could make or break it. Other factors to consider are location of the stove in relation to the rooms you want to heat, and how warm you want them.
 
My personal opinion is that you will find it difficult to get a 1.8 cuft insert to be the primary heater in 1700 sqft. First problem - its 1.8 cuft. Second problem - its an insert. I got NOTHING against inserts, but they are simply not as efficient at getting the heat into the room as a stand alone stove is.

Go bigger.

And welcome to the show.
 
Evergreen said:
I am looking at Inserts; I am very interested in which one you choose. Also, can anyone comment on the blower noise on the Montpelier? Has it improved since it was first released or is it still quite Loud?

the Montpelier is as loud or quiet as any other. Mine makes a wushing sound. Kind of white noise. I have heard that if you have any vibration sound you can quite it buy shimming under the fan motor to stop it. At low to medium speeds it is quiet.
 
Thanks Jags, Agree w/ u freestanding is always better, but the wife wanted something that would close off the existing masonry fireplace. (battle lost)

I went back to the store where they were displaying the voyageur to check it out again. I really wasn't pleased with the way the one would need to load wood in... Even though it was 1.8 cu. ft. the layout is such that there isnt much depth (makes sense with a flush insert right?). You would need to stack it high off of a small base and rely on the andirons to keep your fuel from falling into the glass. My dad has a osburn 1600 with comparable firebox size, the firebox there has more depth, which is what I have always been used to. There you can load it without worrying about what is going to fall where. Maybe it is just a matter of preference, but that was my take on the situation. Don't get me wrong, it is a REALLY nice unit, but the more I thought about it, it just wasnt practical for the purpose we want.

Branchburner, agree with your advice. Go big or home go cold? We decided to take it to the next level with a 2.2 cu ft firebox. Now looking at Hampton HI300, brother in law has hearthstone cyldesdale with similar characteristics, and is able to heat 2,000 sq ft colonial no problem. Our ranch is much older (1950's) than his place, but is decently sealed with good insulation. Tonight will hopefully be the last trip to the wood stove store we need to make in while.
 
Piper506 said:
I really wasn't pleased with the way the one would need to load wood in... Even though it was 1.8 cu. ft. the layout is such that there isnt much depth (makes sense with a flush insert right?). You would need to stack it high off of a small base and rely on the andirons to keep your fuel from falling into the glass.

That's a good point about the numbers: they don't tell the whole story. Two stoves with similar firebox sizes may be very different in how easy it is to use that space. Another point about the numbers, that I think Todd had made, is that they are often not accurate. The usable space is sometimes smaller or larger than the officially listed volume. Good idea to take a tape measure and come up with your own "unofficial" numbers.
 
I'm interested in this insert also (like the looks and large window). Does anyone actually have it? If so, how well does it work and would you recommend it?

Thanks for the feedback.
 
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