Super 27 or T5

I have a Super 27 and it is a great heater. Probably would have decided against the ash dump if I had known it would be kind of a pain. Not sure if the heat is softer from the T5 because of the cast iron plating but if it is that might be a good reason to spent the extra $. This stove has no problem hitting 700 degrees and it might get a little uncomfortable if you have it in your living room. I have mine in the basement so it's perfect.

That's the only thing I could think of, as well, with regards to the heat being softer from the T5. I have a recliner within 5ft of my T5 and you can sit there comfortably, even with the blower on. As far as anything else goes, I'm not sure of any differences, with both stoves having the same size firebox and whatnot.

Murph,

Describe the desired installation details, ie size of room and house, layout, furniture proximity, hearth, existing stove or new install etc and we could be of more assistance.

Edit, just read your one other post which is similar to this one - but had a few more details regarding the installation.

If installed in a basement/family room i personally would opt for the more convective type of stoves , you will need to oversize if you are anticipating heat upstairs.

BrotherBart said:

And a properly sized whatnot is the most important decision in purchasing a wood stove.

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Absolutely! :coolgrin:

Murph015 said:

so will these stoves act completely different in the way they heat? I am looking to get the heat up a flight of stairs to heat the 1st floor. I don't want to get cooked out of a room but I do want enough heat to get upstairs as well.

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Yes, you can get right close to the alderlea's and not get "sunburnt". If you have the hearthspace, oversize, you will be glad you did. There is only a couple of inches difference in width between the t5 and t6, but the volume in the firebox is significantly larger in the t6 which will allow longer burns and potentially more heat if needed. Also, add the blower to assist with air flow across the stove, especially if you get the smaller unit. You can always turn the blower off if it gets too hot. The blower has been a blessing in regulating the heat output in our install during the shoulder season of smaller fires.

Think of a radiant as sitting infront of a heat lamp, or the sun. There is radiant heat projected out from the windows of each stove, as I am ~10 feet in front of the window of the T6 and can feel it on my backside, but off to the sides of the stove not near the "radiance" as directly in front of the stove. And it is a prime position to put "the captains chair" , and in our install, the window is "aimed" at doorway into the great room, and there are chairs in the stove room/kitchen/family room within a few feet off the side and warm but as warm as directly infront i think due to the radiance thru the window.

Convective as a hot air furnace or hair dryer.

Not too sure, but the clearances requirements of the two should be different, convective closer to the walls, radiant being further, see links

Probably need to cut and paste the links:

See pg 8 http://www.pacificenergy.net/PDF/manuals/5055.202 T4-5-6-310510(W).pdf

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http://www.pacificenergy.net/PDF/manuals/5055.202 T4-5-6-310510(W).pdf

2nd picture is from the "captains chair"

Murph015 said:

so will these stoves act completely different in the way they heat? I am looking to get the heat up a flight of stairs to heat the 1st floor. I don't want to get cooked out of a room but I do want enough heat to get upstairs as well.

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I can't speak for the T5 but with my Super 27 I heat the first floor of a 1700 sqft two story colonial from the basement with just the basement door open. Not sure how much heat from the stove makes it to the second floor but I'm happy to only run the furnace for half of the house.

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Murph015 said:

so will these stoves act completely different in the way they heat? I am looking to get the heat up a flight of stairs to heat the 1st floor. I don't want to get cooked out of a room but I do want enough heat to get upstairs as well.

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I can't speak for the T5 but with my Super 27 I heat the first floor of a 1700 sqft two story colonial from the basement with just the basement door open. Not sure how much heat from the stove makes it to the second floor but I'm happy to only run the furnace for half of the house.

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do you use a blower on the super27? and does it make a diff?

My T5 is in the basement, and when the stove is cranking and I have the blower on, it will raise my first floor temps a bit. On days that aren't real cold, I've had it raise it 10 degrees, and on colder days I've had it raise the first floor 5 degrees. Either way, the boiler is only running to heat the second floor zone, when I have the wood stove lit.

madison said:

albertj03 said:

Murph015 said:

so will these stoves act completely different in the way they heat? I am looking to get the heat up a flight of stairs to heat the 1st floor. I don't want to get cooked out of a room but I do want enough heat to get upstairs as well.

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I can't speak for the T5 but with my Super 27 I heat the first floor of a 1700 sqft two story colonial from the basement with just the basement door open. Not sure how much heat from the stove makes it to the second floor but I'm happy to only run the furnace for half of the house.

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do you use a blower on the super27? and does it make a diff?

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I don't have a blower on my stove and didn't on my last stove that was in the same spot so I'm not sure if it would make much of a difference getting the heat upstairs. I have thought about getting the blower but it works great the way it is so I'm in no rush to change anything.

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madison said:

albertj03 said:

Murph015 said:

so will these stoves act completely different in the way they heat? I am looking to get the heat up a flight of stairs to heat the 1st floor. I don't want to get cooked out of a room but I do want enough heat to get upstairs as well.

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I can't speak for the T5 but with my Super 27 I heat the first floor of a 1700 sqft two story colonial from the basement with just the basement door open. Not sure how much heat from the stove makes it to the second floor but I'm happy to only run the furnace for half of the house.

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do you use a blower on the super27? and does it make a diff?

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I don't have a blower on my stove and didn't on my last stove that was in the same spot so I'm not sure if it would make much of a difference getting the heat upstairs. I have thought about getting the blower but it works great the way it is so I'm in no rush to change anything.

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thanks, just curious

BeGreen said:

If this is strictly a basement heater where you rarely spend time, then get the Super27. There isn't a radical difference between the stoves, both are convective. The Alderlea has more mass which will retain heat longer and will soften it a bit if you are close by, but other than that it's mostly aesthetic and a very nifty and useful movable trivet system.

Will the stove be near the open stairwell? Is the basement insulated? How many square feet are being heated? Basement heating can be very inefficient. These factors should be a strong influence for choice, especially if a larger stove like the Summit is more appropriate.

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Thanks BG, I thought that at some point that it was discussed/opined that basement walls were great absorbers of radiant heat ??

The OP did state ( in another thread ) that it was going to be a living area in the basement and that he was concerned with being "burned out" of the room

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madison said:

albertj03 said:

Murph015 said:

so will these stoves act completely different in the way they heat? I am looking to get the heat up a flight of stairs to heat the 1st floor. I don't want to get cooked out of a room but I do want enough heat to get upstairs as well.

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I can't speak for the T5 but with my Super 27 I heat the first floor of a 1700 sqft two story colonial from the basement with just the basement door open. Not sure how much heat from the stove makes it to the second floor but I'm happy to only run the furnace for half of the house.

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do you use a blower on the super27? and does it make a diff?

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Added a blower late last season to test it out. I figured if it didn't work out, I could always sell it. In our milder winter temps, our house and stove convect pretty well. But this last cold snap showed the worth of the blower in a couple ways. First was when I had the stove really packed with softwood and it took off. Turning on the blower had it settled down (in flue and stove top temps) in a few minutes. The second test was for when it was really cold outside. With temps about 22 outside, the blower helped warm up the extremities of the house faster and better than natural convection. So normally it will be off, but I will be keeping the blower for these contingencies.

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Sounds like it would be worth adding the blower. The real reason I never got one in the first place is because there isn't an outlet near my stove. Sounds like a good project, add an outlet and try out a blower.

Yr two with the blower, and I am getting better at maintaining the desired house temps with the blower and using less wood. Lately our temps here in the NE have been moderate, and smaller three split fires and intermittent burning and low fan has worked great. Warmups in the morning a little more fan, same smaller loads.

Fan definately helped during the sub 20 degree days last winter.

I can't speak for the T5 but we love our Super 27, long overnight burn times and she cranks out the heat.