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What kind of temps to you get with the blower off? Last night I loaded mine up for the night with 2 large splits and one 4" round of Ash. Had the air almost closed. After about 1/2 the tea pot whistle was really blowing so got up and stove top was 700 and climbing. With the blower on high it sill stayed at 600. After about 3/4 hour it was down to 500 so got to go back to bed. You should have no trouble hitting 600 to 700 with the blower off.
 
N6CRV said:
What kind of temps to you get with the blower off? Last night I loaded mine up for the night with 2 large splits and one 4" round of Ash. Had the air almost closed. After about 1/2 the tea pot whistle was really blowing so got up and stove top was 700 and climbing. With the blower on high it sill stayed at 600. After about 3/4 hour it was down to 500 so got to go back to bed. You should have no trouble hitting 600 to 700 with the blower off.
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I've yet to see 500 with the blower off. I may have yesterday, if I hadn't been running the blower constantly. But even then it wouldn't have been much above 500. I'm not sure what is wrong, but I sure can't get 600 out of this insert. I'm not running the stove today. Heading up on the roof this afternoon to check out the liner again.

I think I have a good draft. I know I don't have the highest of chimneys, but it's almost straight up with no real drastic bends; plus once I'm past the first flue tile, the liner is even smooth-walled. My glass stays clear and no smoke in the house even with the door open.
 
So, I think it is the wood afterall. Isn't it always :) I was sitting by the stove tonight with the door cracked waiting for the fire to take off and I could hear the moisture sizzling off the wood. I thought 18-19% was good to go?
 
Hey Guys (and Gals),
I just bought a new Timber Ridge TNC-13 from Overstocked. Been reading the posts and I'm having much the same problem as WB. Can't seem to get enough heat out of the stove, trouble getting a good burn unless I leave the door cracked and then it pulls good. I have tried different wood and what I burn, (age and type), DOES make a difference, but here's my question for the group. I have 4 sections of stove pipe (24") with 1-12" section, so 9 feet with a single Duravent section on the outside. 12 in all. The non EPA Vogelzang boxwood was great on this but I'm thinking the NC-13 wants more draft. Am I minimal on chimney? and if so when I add another section will I need to brace the chimney? The roof on this section of the house ( an addition) is almost flat, with rubber covering, about a 10 foot stretch to where to original pitched roof begins.
 
Hello Roadman, I would guess you are short on the Chimney. I have about 6' in the house then 12' of Duravent chimney. There is 9' above the roof. I tried it with 6' above the roof and just did not get a good draft. The extra section really helped. I did have to brace it. I don't have any trouble getting the stove up to 600 to 700. At times I have more trouble trying to keep the heat down. You will enjoy the stove just add some more chimney pipe.
 
Thanks for the input. My suspicion as well.
 
I have the 13 nci.

I have good wood mostly elm and hack berry.

I have the block off plate, 23ft long 6in flex insulated liner and insulation on the sides of the unit behind the surround.

I did almost everything to get max heat out of it.

I have no problem getting 700 out of it on the side of the unit.

If I have small splits I can get their in 15 to 20 min.

My average is 600 in 30min.

Blower on high with high heat.

I would say you have more than one problem.

First get some store bought wood.

Fill your small fire box.

Don't expect 3 small splits to make it too 500.

I use 5 or six splits atleast 6in and add small if I have room.

I do go past the fire brick just under the secondary tubes.( I'll take cover now!!!!)

Make a block off plate.

Hope it helps.
 
WARDNEAL said:
I have the 13 nci.

I have good wood mostly elm and hack berry.

I have the block off plate, 23ft long 6in flex insulated liner and insulation on the sides of the unit behind the surround.

I did almost everything to get max heat out of it.

I have no problem getting 700 out of it on the side of the unit.

If I have small splits I can get their in 15 to 20 min.

My average is 600 in 30min.

Blower on high with high heat.

I would say you have more than one problem.

First get some store bought wood.

Fill your small fire box.

Don't expect 3 small splits to make it too 500.

I use 5 or six splits atleast 6in and add small if I have room.

I do go past the fire brick just under the secondary tubes.( I'll take cover now!!!!)

Make a block off plate.

Hope it helps.
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Thanks for the input. I've been getting better, seen 500+ with the blower on now. Not 600-700, but I'm still dealing with sub-par wood. It's heating my house sufficiently now. I think I've only run the furnace once or twice in the last couple of weeks?

Is that your thermometer on the front left of the stove in your avatar? Is that where you usually have it placed?
 
WB. Here is a pic of my 13 thermo and where I placed it. Also a pic of a recent snack.

I just cleaned a lot of ash out of my to make some adjustments to the stove a couple of days ago. I noticed it took a little while to get the stove really working well till the coal bed came back up. In this cold weather I think the stove needs that coal base.

I also stuff the firebox to WARDNEAL...
 

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Fireant, I had to experiment with my thermo location on the insert. I originally had it placed where you have it, however, the insert has another layer of steel on the top to create an air channel for the blower. I relocated the thermo to the side and have seen higher temps. The stove may have been reaching higher temps than I originally thought prior to relocating the thermo.
 
These guys sure don't care whether the thermo reads 400 or 600! Taken this morning.
 

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I gotcha. I should have read better too...I thought you had the 13 stove. Now I see it's the insert. Love how the dog is watching the fire!!

Enjoy the heat

Anthony
 
:) Glad you are getting better temps.

That avatar picture is were I did have it.

That location is no good.

Moved to the right side just about even with the glass top on the door.

Much higher reading hear, as it is over the fire brick and not in the path of the secondary air channel.

I can keep my 2 story quit nice if I burn 24/7. The two gas furnaces will only kick on around 6am.

The overnight burn has lost it heat out put by then but I can easily restart in the morning.

I had $400 to $500 gas bills last year.

It looks like I will pay for the insert, liner, saw, and splitter in the first year of burning. :)
 
Everyone, just an update to my slow/low burning timber ridge 13. I added another 3' section of Duravent and the stove is a new animal. Heats up faster, draws better and temps as high as 600 to 700 if I'm not watching her. Real pretty secondary burns after I shut down the air to half open. Looks like that was the major issue, plus I'm using better, dryer seasoned wood. Thanks to all!
 
I have the NC13 as well, had it in just over a week. I have secondary burning with the air as low as it will go with stove top temp at 500. My flue temp is only showing 200 at a foot above the stove. What are you guys seeing there? What sort of differences in the two temps? Should I be more concerned with stove or flue temps. Getting the heat out appears to be no problem for me.
 
roadman said:
Everyone, just an update to my slow/low burning timber ridge 13. I added another 3' section of Duravent and the stove is a new animal. Heats up faster, draws better and temps as high as 600 to 700 if I'm not watching her. Real pretty secondary burns after I shut down the air to half open. Looks like that was the major issue, plus I'm using better, dryer seasoned wood. Thanks to all!
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Hey Roadman,

Congratulations on fixing your problem, and thanks for reporting back. That helps everybody. Happy burning!
 
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