Big box stores also get downgraded versions of a product, so Brand X item 123456a at Lowes, maybe of a different quality than Brand X item 123456 purchased from the mfg. or registered retailer
madison said:Big box stores also get downgraded versions of a product, so Brand X item 123456a at Lowes, maybe of a different quality than Brand X item 123456 purchased from the mfg. or registered retailer
LLigetfa said:Ja, right... minimum code. Do you also drive a Ford Pinto?woodsmaster said:If the cheaper stuff wasn't safe they wouldn't sell it. I'd have no problem sleeping at night with it in my house.
No need to make it personal. That Splitter is not likely to kill us while we sleep.woodsmaster said:How about that MTD spliter, Is that top of the line ? I don't think so.
In the case of the Excel and the Canadian standard, three times as long as I had posted, not just a third as you suggest.btuser said:Three chimney fires 10 minutes long @2100 degrees. If you add more metal what are you getting? 4 Chimney fires?
LLigetfa said:No need to make it personal. That Splitter is not likely to kill us while we sleep.woodsmaster said:How about that MTD spliter, Is that top of the line ? I don't think so.
I think you missed my point about the Pinto. It was not about how cheap or luxurious the car is, it's about how unsafe the Pinto was with the exploding gas tank and how the government did not protect the consumer with adequate safety standards.woodsmaster said:I don't drive a pinto but my vehicles are not cadillacs either.
RenovationGeorge said:madison said:Big box stores also get downgraded versions of a product, so Brand X item 123456a at Lowes, maybe of a different quality than Brand X item 123456 purchased from the mfg. or registered retailer
That's a good point. I found that with lawn mowers. Lowes and HD had lower quality but similar models of the same brands as dedicated mower retailers. A casual shopper wouldn't notice, which I guess is the point.
BeGreen said:Back to the OP. I don't think your stove dealer is trying to rip you off at all. He is offering you a good product that he knows and trusts at a good price. How is this a rip off? To compare it with a cheaper big box pipe of a different brand (and perhaps you haven't accounted for all the pieces needed?) is not reasonable. Compared to online volume sellers - of the same product - your stove dealer's price is within a couple hundred. And that is easily justified considering your dealer has a store, staff, taxes, equipment etc. to pay for. They deserve and need to make a profit in order to stay in business. These profits go back into your community.
If you are happy with with the Lowes product, then go for it. But the premise that your stove dealer is trying to rip you off seems totally unfounded and unfair IMO.
emt1581 said:RenovationGeorge said:madison said:Big box stores also get downgraded versions of a product, so Brand X item 123456a at Lowes, maybe of a different quality than Brand X item 123456 purchased from the mfg. or registered retailer
That's a good point. I found that with lawn mowers. Lowes and HD had lower quality but similar models of the same brands as dedicated mower retailers. A casual shopper wouldn't notice, which I guess is the point.
I've heard it before and it was long thought that Wally World got crappy quality 10/22 rifles as well and it was proven to be pure hogwash. Now are there different (read: more economical) versions made specifically for a big chain store...sure. But the same product has been the same at ever store in my experience. YMMV
-Emt1581
HOOSIERJIM said:You make some pretty good points there Den. Rip off is a bit harsh, the dealer could have communicated better,and most of us burn to keep from padding the pockets of the gas,oil and electric tycoons thus we are looking to keep some money for ourselves. The Selkirk chimney in question is rated from what I understand for 3 ten minute heat cycles at 2100 degrees farenheit. If you for some reason exceed that then maybe you should think about your burning habits or find another source of heat and please don't blow that out of context as a deragotory comment. I am just saying after 3 raging chimney fires something has to change
emt1581 said:BeGreen said:Your stove shop's pricing is in line. A 4ft length of Metalbest runs about $150 at the online discount shops.
http://www.northlineexpress.com/ite...Best-Ultra-Temp-Stainless-Chimney-Pipe-6UT-48
Then what am I looking at on lowes website?
http://www.lowes.com/pd_37620-85178...pl=1¤tURL;=/pl__0__s?Ntt=chimney&page=1
That says double walled...no mention of insulation though...are some double walled chimney pipes not insulated? Does insullation make much of a difference with a class A external?
Thanks!
-Emt1581
NATE379 said:Where do you see $68? That link says the pipe is $89.
I paid roughly the same price for "Metalbest" pipe from my stove shop. I didn't even check with Lowe's since they did the install and everything.
emt1581 said:BeGreen said:Your stove shop's pricing is in line. A 4ft length of Metalbest runs about $150 at the online discount shops.
http://www.northlineexpress.com/ite...Best-Ultra-Temp-Stainless-Chimney-Pipe-6UT-48
Then what am I looking at on lowes website?
http://www.lowes.com/pd_37620-85178...pl=1¤tURL;=/pl__0__s?Ntt=chimney&page=1
That says double walled...no mention of insulation though...are some double walled chimney pipes not insulated? Does insullation make much of a difference with a class A external?
Thanks!
-Emt1581
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