A Lot of Trickery Going On.....

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leeave96

Minister of Fire
Apr 22, 2010
1,113
Western VA
Just when I thought I had my woodstove dialed-in, I began experiencing a new wrinkle.

I swerved into some locust in my woodpile and found the stuff hard to light-off and at the end of the burn, lots of big coals - limiting my firebox capacity and reducing the amount of heat output potential. My locust was seasoned and dry. Did some searching and found that others on this forum had some of the same trouble with locust. All of this was contrary to my previous experience as I regard locust as the best firewood I have ever burned. But my stove top temps were only getting up to about 450 degrees with the locust.

So I swiched over to some maple and oak mix and my burn was better, but only a bit. My glass started blackening-up on the sides and I'm thinking maybe a bit moist?

Then, I open the firebox door over several days and find smoke wanting to spill out the door - not something I have experienced before.

So - I got a new 6 inch stainless steel liner with 1/2 insulation that only a week or so drafted like a vacuum cleaner. I'm thinking I've got a creosote obstruction.

It warmed up outside today, so I let the fire go out and the stove cool. I check the stove pipe going from the stove to the thimble/tee. All clean with only a little black dust. I go down to the cleanout, open the door on it and BINGO the problem has been found. The cap on the end of the liner had fell off and the chimney was drawing air from the leaky cleanout door and limiting the draft to the stove. While I was there, I put a mirror up and had a look-see at the chimney liner and it was super clean. Re-attached the liner cap, started a new fire, my draft was back and the stove once again easily cruises to 500 to 600 degrees, the glass has burned clear and I am a happy camper!

Turns out the locust was good, there was no creosote or obstruction. Tricked by the liner!

Happy New Year Everyone!!!!!!!!!

Bill
 
Nice to find an easy fix and real nice to know you've been burning clean. Happy New Year! Cheers!
 
Good find.
Warmed up here today also, 36°f & rain. Driveway iced over.
House warmed to 76, letting the stove burn down now.
Would love to have some locust, maple or oak.
Happy New Year :)
 
Kinda scary it fell off in the first place.
 
stove clean, chimney clean BUT burning for 2 hrs and house was at 58 when I started and now the room I am in with the stove 12x20ft is now 65.1 degrees and the stove is cruising at 500 degrees. I have a block off plate so do not understand why the room does not get hotter and the house is stll about 59 or 60 outside of this room. The room has two big doorways to kitchen in one end and dinning room at the other end. Bugs me that the VC circa 1985 or so Resolute lll does not heat faster and better. Some say they are blasted out of their rooms with this same stove so wonder what I could be doing wrong. It has cruised at least and hour at 500 so that is not the problema and I actually have set up a small fan behind the stove to push the heated air out toward us. The stove is in front of a heart at one end of the room and we are pretty much at the other end of the room although my chair is probably 14 ft way from the stove.
Anyone out there with a Resolute lll who can step in with advice to get this stove heating the room better? OR is that it?
 
leeave96 said:
Re-attached the liner cap, started a new fire, my draft was back and the stove once again easily cruises to 500 to 600 degrees, the glass has burned clear and I am a happy camper!

Turns out the locust was good, there was no creosote or obstruction. Tricked by the liner!

Happy New Year Everyone!!!!!!!!!

Bill

I love a story with a Happy ending... 'specially one that teaches something, like the basics of a diluted draft. Happy New Liner, Bill!
 
sandie said:
stove clean, chimney clean BUT burning for 2 hrs and house was at 58 when I started and now the room I am in with the stove 12x20ft is now 65.1 degrees and the stove is cruising at 500 degrees. I have a block off plate so do not understand why the room does not get hotter and the house is stll about 59 or 60 outside of this room. The room has two big doorways to kitchen in one end and dinning room at the other end. Bugs me that the VC circa 1985 or so Resolute lll does not heat faster and better. Some say they are blasted out of their rooms with this same stove so wonder what I could be doing wrong. It has cruised at least and hour at 500 so that is not the problema and I actually have set up a small fan behind the stove to push the heated air out toward us. The stove is in front of a heart at one end of the room and we are pretty much at the other end of the room although my chair is probably 14 ft way from the stove.
Anyone out there with a Resolute lll who can step in with advice to get this stove heating the room better? OR is that it?
I ran a Resolute III last night at my BIL's house. It's in a room that's probably 22x18'. It took that room from 59 to 70 in a couple of hours. There's only one door to a hallway. Some of the heat was leaving the room because there's a furnace thermostat half way down the hallway and it got up to 70 a little later.
It's possible that at your house, there are just too many escape routes from that room for the heat, and too many other rooms draining the BTUs.

I looked at the manual the other day, and it says you can run that lil' cutie at 350-600* stove top....CRANK 'ER UP! :)

But I gotta find that guy another stove. As soon as I drop in the pipe and fire up my old Englander on his basement hearth, he will be bringing shame and humiliation on the family by running those two smoke-belchers. The 'hood's gonna look like those old pictures from the dawn of the Machine Age. :mad:
 
leeave96 said:
The cap on the end of the liner had fell off
It's all about "positive connection." :lol:
 
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