Can You Recommend A Tiny Real Stove For Small Space Heating and Ambience (Flame Display)?

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Hi Folks

Just for fun, I'm researching tiny, friendly stoves.

In this thread: https://www.hearth.com/econtent/index.php/forums/viewthread/67038/

Dan Corcoran posted:

[quote author="DanCorcoran" date="1293678541"]I've always wanted to put one of these in a small space, but they're pricey...


http://www.marinestove.com/index.htm[/quote]

That's what piqued my interest. I really like those stoves--they are well built, tiny, pretty to me, and even EPA compliant.

That got me curious if there are any other stoves like that. Personally I'd prefer the looks of a cast iron or stone stove that burns well and easily, and a nice flame display. And EPA compliance would be nice, just because. I wouldn't want a lot of heat output, but a long burn would be nice, along with minimal clearance requirements.

Contradictory as it is, it would also be nice if the stove would take 16" splits, since that's the wood I have. I know the last kind of contradicts the whole thing, so it's not a firm requirement, but it would be nice.

My knowledge of stove brands and models is pretty limited, but I nosed around the sites of the brands I've noticed folks talk about here, and the best matches I've come up with are the Marine Stove's Dan mentioned, along with the Morso 1440:

http://www.morsona.com/index.php/classic-stoves/morso-1440.html

Both those choices seem to meet my criteria, except for they take 12" logs, which isn't a show stopper.

Other tiny stoves didn't have good reviews, etc.

The Hearthstone Tribute is neat too, but maybe a bit bigger than I'd want.

Any comments on these stoves, and suggestions for others?

Happy New Year, and happy burning to all!
 
We just got a Vermont Castings Intrepid II. It's small, about the size of a bed pillow. My sons don't think it will keep us warm, but I do!
 
Ann from KY said:
We just got a Vermont Castings Intrepid II. It's small, about the size of a bed pillow. My sons don't think it will keep us warm, but I do!
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Thanks Ann!

Yes, from what I see, both the Intrepid II and the Jotul F100 burn 16" logs, anyone have any experience with those?
 
RenoG- How big is your small area? if I can ever hook-up with the seller, I'm looking at a Jotul 602N for a 300sq.ft. area. If it works out, I WANT it to roast me out of that area for 3-5 hrs.
 
Beetle-Kill said:
RenoG- How big is your small area? if I can ever hook-up with the seller, I'm looking at a Jotul 602N for a 300sq.ft. area. If it works out, I WANT it to roast me out of that area for 3-5 hrs.
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I'm thinking around 260 to 300 sq.ft, and would rather not be roasted. More romantic than burly.

That thing is sweet, and I'm guessing it's more of a real heater? For me, I'd prefer a bigger window.
 
Treacherous said:
How about some of the stoves from Marine Stoves? It appears some are for boats but could be installed on land as well.

http://www.marinestove.com/sardineinfo.htm
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Oh, abso-frickin'-lutely. Actually, I mentioned them in my first post. Take a look at the install photos--some really nice land applications, including small cabins, RVs, etc. If they made a model that took 16" splits, they'd be near perfect for this application. Though soapstone would be nice. :)
 
I missed that link in your post.

Those stoves are pretty cool. The island they are built on is a neat getaway here in WA state. The wife and I stayed up there last summer.


RenovationGeorge said:
Treacherous said:
How about some of the stoves from Marine Stoves? It appears some are for boats but could be installed on land as well.

http://www.marinestove.com/sardineinfo.htm
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Oh, abso-frickin'-lutely. Actually, I mentioned them in my first post. Take a look at the install photos--some really nice land applications, including small cabins, RVs, etc. If they made a model that took 16" splits, they'd be near perfect for this application. Though soapstone would be nice. :)
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I saw a stove about thirty years ago, like a tiny miniature wood cookstove. About big enough oven to bake a loaf of bread. It was enameled a pale green, and heated a small living structure that was a semi-subterrean living space that was maybe about 8x12. It was a very cutsey little living space--window opened at ground level, into a tinier greenhouse, from which one could pluck one's dinner. Lilliputian. Can't remember anything else about the stove except off the chart on the cuteness factor. (I'd wonder now about the CO factor, but that's because I've had a few more trips around the sun since then. . . )
 
RenoG- So are you looking at a top or rear flue? If I had the clearance, that Englander 17-VL would be my pick. Just say'in.
 
jotul..... F100 nordic ... 16" log too! can get it 8" from the rear with double wall black pipe.
no stove of this size will give an over nite burn...but you can get 5-6 hours from it.
 
look at the Hearthstone Craftsbury too. it is a cast iron stove , 17"log, can get it 9" to read with heat shield and double wall black pipe.

sometimes small stoves might be small but if the clearances are not good they can wind up taking up alot of room.
make sure you check the clearances to combustibles.
 
snowleopard said:
I saw a stove about thirty years ago, like a tiny miniature wood cookstove. About big enough oven to bake a loaf of bread. It was enameled a pale green, and heated a small living structure that was a semi-subterrean living space that was maybe about 8x12. It was a very cutsey little living space--window opened at ground level, into a tinier greenhouse, from which one could pluck one's dinner. Lilliputian. Can't remember anything else about the stove except off the chart on the cuteness factor. (I'd wonder now about the CO factor, but that's because I've had a few more trips around the sun since then. . . )
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Nice! Have you looked at the stoves over at marinestoves.com? Was it like that?
 
Beetle-Kill said:
RenoG- So are you looking at a top or rear flue? If I had the clearance, that Englander 17-VL would be my pick. Just say'in.
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Top flue.

Hmmm... good call on the Englander, I'll give that some thought. It doesn't have that cast-iron goodness, but what a window, and that guy--Rob is it?--is sure happy with his. Sure hard to beat the price. Thanks.
 
ruth140 said:
jotul..... F100 nordic ... 16" log too! can get it 8" from the rear with double wall black pipe.
no stove of this size will give an over nite burn...but you can get 5-6 hours from it.
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Thanks Ruth! Agreed, and that is the closest fit to my original spec. I'd be putting it in a corner, and its corner clearances are a little higher than others--10"/7" double wall with the wall shielded/unshielded--but that's not bad. And folks rate it well in the reviews.

Something's gotta give, so I guess I'd burn small fast fires for flame with less heat, and not worry about long burns.
 
Wow, the Englander VL-17 only requires 6" corner-to-wall clearance in a corner install, double wall pipe but unprotected wall! Very nice!
 
RenoG- Think about the VL-17 . I can't comment on the performance of the the stove, but the clearances would work for me, and the heat output could be tailored for your scenario. As far as looks go, remember- that thing is plate steel. You can add all kinds of things to it. Metal scrolls, twisted highlights, and custom cut-outs for relief(visible ones). I'm sure those mods. would void the warranty, but not the function.
 
Beetle-Kill said:
RenoG- Think about the VL-17 . I can't comment on the performance of the the stove, but the clearances would work for me, and the heat output could be tailored for your scenario. As far as looks go, remember- that thing is plate steel. You can add all kinds of things to it. Metal scrolls, twisted highlights, and custom cut-outs for relief(visible ones). I'm sure those mods. would void the warranty, but not the function.
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Yes, the clearances are a very pleasant surprise, and the package and price are very appealing.

Regarding aesthetics, you may be joking, but I'm not. ;) Coincidentally, I am actually planning on a similar motif for my King, if I end up with one. At first I was trying to modernize/prettify it with neutral colors, but then I got the idea to go the other way, and exaggerate its mechanical/utilitarian aspects to the point of coolness. To get an idea of what I'm thinking, type "steampunk" into Google images, or think of Doctor Who, The Time Machine, First Men in the Moon, etc.

Here's an example of the sorts of colors/textures:

http://www.rippin-kitten.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/steampunk_trike.jpg

http://gizmodo.com/assets/resources/2008/04/steamnerf1.jpg

So I could carry that through with the Englander, with contrasting bronze/metallic colors, embellishments, etc.
 
RenoG- Dude, I wasn't blowing smoke on the surface embellishments. Check out -wwwkingmetals.com-
(may have to add an "s" after the g-in king). Anyhows- steel plate stove, plug welds, drill-n-tap, tap through....etc.,... you can add damn near anything you wish to the exterior of your stove, just position it for easy cleaning of ash and dust, and thermal radiance. If I keep it, my BKK will be "Pimped" come this time next year.
 
Beetle-Kill said:
RenoG- Dude, I wasn't blowing smoke on the surface embellishments. Check out -wwwkingmetals.com-
(may have to add an "s" after the g-in king). Anyhows- steel plate stove, plug welds, drill-n-tap, tap through....etc.,... you can add damn near anything you wish to the exterior of your stove, just position it for easy cleaning of ash and dust, and thermal radiance. If I keep it, my BKK will be "Pimped" come this time next year.
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Whew, synchronicity--check out the image I just added two posts up.

EDIT: Checking out your link, will update...

Yes, http://www.kingmetals.com looks like exactly the sort of thing I have in mind. Yes, very cool. I'm hoping to scrounge old levers, dials, panels, etc. too.

What I'd like to do is echo the look of those old premium stoves, with all the plated metal edging, and big plated air intake knobs.

Uhm, Happy New Year! :)
 
Do NOT tell me you're after a "Trike". My buddies would smack me for even typing this! ;-P I have other links to steel forgers, most are domestic so you can dictate your requirements. (I have a guy with power-hammers about 5 minutes from me , yup- the new skin on my BKK is probably coming from him.) if you want, let me know what you''re after and maybe I can lend some direction- let me know. happy new year!!
 
Just thought I'd throw out the VC Aspen as an option. Fills the requirements- cast iron, nice window, 16 in. logs. I know they have a bit of a bad reputation but I like mine fine, no flaws other than the inherent one of short burn times due to small firebox.
 
Hello,

My wife and I spent much of December researching small wood stoves for electricity outage heat and ambiance. Serious contenders boiled down to Jotul F602cb, Jotul F100, Morso 1410, Morso 1440 and Morso 7110. We settled on a Morso 1440 for our parlor and may buy a Morso 7110 for the family room. In my opinion the Morso's are well engineered, have beautiful cast iron work, and are assembled with gaskets and not stove cement. The gaskets should last longer as the stove ages.

Both the Morso 1440 and 7110 have very tight clearances which our home required and the 7110 has a large door glass for fire viewing.

Exterior appearance of the Morso 1410 and 1440 is unique and charming, a big influence on my wife's opinion.

- Arnold Z.
 
Have a look-see at the Woodstock Keystone. It looks like a small fireplace. In addition to the large glass, there are andirons in front of the glass and with side load, the logs load-up visually like they wood in a fireplace. With the cat, you can turn it down and get a clean burn if required. It is a soapstone stove, so the rooom temperatures are very constant once up to speed.

We have one and the view of the fire rolling up off the logs is terrific.

Good luck,
Bill
 
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