Century Fire Place Insert

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I got one, works great. Very happy with it. Small firebox would be the biggest downside, but that's not the stove's fault. Also, despite what the manual says:
1) There is no intake for an OAK.
2) The fan is not thermostatically controlled. Although SBI customer service was great--I complained, and they mailed me a thermodisk/wiring to install on the blower.
 
thanks for the info Nola.. The price really has me on this one.. hard to pass up. Our home is a ranch with about 1500sf..

This insert would do a nice job of providing heat you think?

Also forgive me but what do you mean by OAK ?
 
dunno. my house is 1500 sf as well, fairly open floor plan. Has some insulation, but could still use some sealing and is uninsulated in the crawl space. Couple of weeks ago I was able to heat when the weather was in the 20's, but it was a struggle; needed to keep it cranking, reload every 3-4 hours. If I could, I would have gone bigger. Ohio gets colder than virginia. OAK= outside air kit. Seems that unless your house is super tight, you won't need one.
 
Thanks for the replies folks. I ordered one from Northern and it will be here on Thursday. It should work out quite well in my drafty, old 1200sq ft brick home:)

In the meantime, I had a bit of chimney prep to do. After cleaning the chimney and fireplace and literally bathing in soot (now THATs a dirty job) I removed the damper which happens to be 6.5" wide and almost 2 feet long. The good news is that I didnt have to demo the damper and the flex pipe fit through the opening without too much manipulation. I finally installed 15 feet of 6 inch insulated flex pipe down the chimney liner and attached the top plate. My Husky is supervising the whole operation from the driveway:

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Here's with the top plate and rain cover connected:
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After reading through many posts here at Hearth.com, I decided to create my own block off plate using the following instructions: https://www.hearth.com/econtent/index.php/articles/making_a_block_off_plate/ which worked great so cheers to the author! I went to a local HVAC retailer and they cut me a piece of 4' x 2' 28 gauge sheet metal for just 9 bucks! I cut mine to size using my jig saw with a metal blade which works like a champ BTW. The only problem I had was bending the flange without proper tools. I got it done but it doesn't look to pretty. I also cut out the same size of chimney liner insulation for the block off plate and glued it to the back.

It aint pretty but it works and its insulated:
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Here's my lonely fireplace awaiting its insert:
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Great pics. Keep us informed. I think I will be installing my own now too. Don't know who too trust around here and not wanting to pay too much for a install.
 
OhioWB said:
Great pics. Keep us informed. I think I will be installing my own now too. Don't know who too trust around here and not wanting to pay too much for a install.

Thanks. Yeah, I hate paying someone for something I can do myself especially if they do a half-assed job. The process of insulating the liner, shoving it down the chimney, getting it through the damper opening and attaching the block off plate took around an hour and I was pretty methodical (slow);)

Definitely give it a shot. Should save ya quite a few bucks.
 
I just got my cw2500 in a few days ago. I also installed it myself without too much grief.

Of course, like any project there were some hiccups. My 5.5" uninsulated liner *just* went through a misaligned flue tile after I chipped away a bit of the edge. And I thought cutting an inch out of the damper would be no problem with a recip saw but 6 blades later I gave up and smashed out the whole damper assembly!

Jutt, I hope you have the liner back far enough to get the stove in deep enough. I found it to be a very tight fit between the back fireplace bricks and the stove due to the 45 degree outlet.

So far I've been very happy with the insert although the fan is not thermostatically controlled as someone else pointed out. I think I'll be giving SBI a call about that also.

I'd be interested to hear how you guys like the stove and what you think of it's performance. This is my first wood stove so I have nothing to compare with. What's the longest burn you can achieve? How long before you are able to dial down the air all the way? Any tips in general?
 
Man, this stove rocks! I have it temporarily connected with the vertical appliance connector until my 45 degree elbow arrives. Its just sitting further towards the front of the hearth than it should be but that will change when I get the elbow. It was a really cold weekend in Denver with lows around 0 and highs in the teens and low twenties on Friday and Saturday and I think my furnace came on maybe 2 times! My chimney is on 1 end of the house with my thermostat being on the other end. I mounted a 10 inch fan to the top of my den's doorway to blow the hot air to the back of the house...works like a champ. The den stayed around 72-74 degrees (even opened a window) and the back of the house was around 68-70 degrees. I havent even turned on the blower yet...I may just remove it for a cleaner install (no cord).

At any rate, I'm going to post pics and a full review soon but I'm extremely impressed with the stove so far.
 
Nice . Glad things are working out for you. You have sold me on this stove and self install for sure!
 
OhioWB said:
Nice . Glad things are working out for you. You have sold me on this stove and self install for sure!

Good to hear. The only bad thing about this stove is that its made in Canada and not hear in the States.

Lol! ;) Just kidding, my wife was born in London, Ontario so we constantly give each other crap. Its built by Stove Builder's International in Quebec and the build quality is quite good.
 
Jutt77 said:
Man, this stove rocks!

While I don't have any previous burning experience I would say the same thing.

Last weekend I tried an experiment and turned off the furnace and cranked up the stove for a whole day. It kept the whole house warm and my house is over 3000 square feet. Mind you it was really mild out that day at around +5C and the basement where the stove is located wasn't really habitable at 25C.

My intention for the stove was to heat the 1000 square feet of the basement nights and weekends and it works perfectly. In fact it works a little too well, I have to burn small loads and let it cool a bit between loads or the basement gets way too hot. If I had put this stove on my main floor I'm sure it could easily heat the top two floors if I kept it well fed.
 
Nice SS installl. Quick question- why and how long are those tap cons in the firebrick just below the block off plate? If they are long or penetrate the brick they could transmit the heat behind the firebrick. Sorry to sound paranoid.
 
I have a CW2500 that I use for supplemental heating in our two story (actually 3 story if you include the walkout basement) colonial in NE Illinois.

Picked it up in fall 2009 as a discontinued model at Menards home improvement store for around $520 (including tax).

I've been pretty happy with it. It heats the main floor well eventhough the house is a bit drafty at times. The only two downsides are
a) the small fire box... need to reload about every 3 hours... that's not a problem though since the insert is mostly for ambience and secondary heat. (If looking for continous flames and secondary burn for ambience, then need to load every 90-120 minutes).
b) manual fan which also can be a bit noisy when it starts to rattle...usually a tap onthe blower vent calms the rattling down.

CAUTION... this being our second winter (we burn maybe 1x-2x per week) with the CW2500 I learned (almost the hard way not to overfire).
The CW2500 can get out of control with the air on if the fire box is packed.

last weekend I packed the insert with seasoned dry oak splits the tightest I ever REpacked it. I left the air open for 30 minutes and the fan off so the 200 degree stove would get started.... imagine my surprise when I came back and saw the thermometer at 700 degrees ... thermo was in the upper right corner of the front of the stove.

I opened the door at first (probably not a good idea) to listen for whooshing sounds (and heard it), then I quickly shut everything down (door and the air) and turned the blower on full.

LESSON LEARNED: Don't leave the CW25000 unattended if you have the air open (unless you are down to only coals and are NOT repacking... then you can leave the air open)
The CW2500 is a bit leaky and will burn nicely with air closed off all the way... this is the way I run it after the splits take.
 
P.S. A couple years ago, there were a number of posts on this stove having welding problems -- welds holding the inner box to the outer box were failing.

My thoughts are that if you don't over fire it (like I just accidentally did for the first time), you are probably OK.

Also, I placed some ceramic tile underneath the inner box (not along the outer perimeter which is really the outer box) to help support the inner box.

https://www.hearth.com/econtent/index.php/forums/viewthread/7220/
 
CJ-8_Jim said:
imagine my surprise when I came back and saw the thermometer at 700 degrees.

Stove manual states not to exceed 840F. While 700 is probably too hot to run regularly it's not really on overfire.
 
CJ-8_Jim said:
P.S. A couple years ago, there were a number of posts on this stove having welding problems -- welds holding the inner box to the outer box were failing./

I read around here somewhere that they changed the design of the stove so that the inner box is no longer supported by those welds that were failing. Someone else may know the details.
 
Scottydont said:
CJ-8_Jim said:
imagine my surprise when I came back and saw the thermometer at 700 degrees.

Stove manual states not to exceed 840F. While 700 is probably too hot to run regularly it's not really on overfire.

The 700 reading I had was on the outside of the front of the stove... I imagine the exhaust gases at the stove's flue collar where 200+ degrees more (e.g., 900+)
 
Scottydont said:
CJ-8_Jim said:
P.S. A couple years ago, there were a number of posts on this stove having welding problems -- welds holding the inner box to the outer box were failing./

I read around here somewhere that they changed the design of the stove so that the inner box is no longer supported by those welds that were failing. Someone else may know the details.

Good to know... I guess one could easily poke their head around and look for where the welds are (and how much is welded). Tough to tell visually on a painted weld if there was sufficient penetration, but maybe.
 
jocam said:
Nice SS installl. Quick question- why and how long are those tap cons in the firebrick just below the block off plate? If they are long or penetrate the brick they could transmit the heat behind the firebrick. Sorry to sound paranoid.

The screws are about an inch and a half long. I originally installed them into the bricks to hold up the block off plate but the block off plate is being supported by the flex liner so I think I may take them out and fill the holes just to be on the safe side.
 
CJ-8_Jim said:
P.S. A couple years ago, there were a number of posts on this stove having welding problems -- welds holding the inner box to the outer box were failing.

My thoughts are that if you don't over fire it (like I just accidentally did for the first time), you are probably OK.

Also, I placed some ceramic tile underneath the inner box (not along the outer perimeter which is really the outer box) to help support the inner box.

https://www.hearth.com/econtent/index.php/forums/viewthread/7220/

It looks like the new ones are a completely different design, i.e. there are no tack welds supporting the inner box as the inner box rests directly on the floor. My manufacturer date is November 2010 BTW.
 
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