Is this Elm?

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doubledip

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Nov 11, 2007
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Warren, Michigan
I'm not too sure what it is but there is at least a cord sitting on the ground waiting for a home.
 

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Not elm but you will probably guess it if you think about it.
 
Looks like it . . . the caveat being I am better at IDing trees with leaves vs. bark . . . the one thing against this possibly not being elm is that it looks pretty cleanly split for elm that still has its bark on it.
 
Looks like walnut.
 
Color of wood+ bark at first made me think Siberian Elm,its darker brown heart than American Elm.I split a dry load of it last June.Much straighter grain than American also.

But when you mentioned its very heavy,I change my guess to Bur Oak,it has thicker deeper bark than White Oak,plus its a darker brown,almost like Walnut in some trees.
 
firefighterjake said:
Looks like it . . . the caveat being I am better at IDing trees with leaves vs. bark . . . the one thing against this possibly not being elm is that it looks pretty cleanly split for elm that still has its bark on it.

Jake, in this case one only has to look at the color of that beautiful wood.
 
Backwoods Savage said:
firefighterjake said:
Looks like it . . . the caveat being I am better at IDing trees with leaves vs. bark . . . the one thing against this possibly not being elm is that it looks pretty cleanly split for elm that still has its bark on it.

Jake, in this case one only has to look at the color of that beautiful wood.

D'oh . . . you are right . . . as almost always usual (the exception being of course your habit of splitting wood vertically) . . . I was focused on the bark . . . and truth be told we don't have walnut in my neck of the woods . . . the elm I see (and you see) is almost always mostly white.
 
jlove1974 said:
http://www.google.com/images?hl=en&source=imghp&biw=1414&bih=852&q=walnut+bark&gbv=2&aq=f&aqi=g1g-m1&aql;=&oq;=&gs;_rfai=


yep

 

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Black Walnut. Nice firewood. I am afraid it is cut too short to make a table. Maybe tops for stools?
 
Ya, to me it is one of the prettiest woods there are.
 
doubledip said:
I guess I should go and snatch me some more Wallnut........

Its not the greatest burning wood but not bad!
 
Wood Duck said:
Black Walnut. Nice firewood. I am afraid it is cut too short to make a table. Maybe tops for stools?

That was my first thought, a nice little three legged stool to place in front of the stove when I'm loading.

There are some big rounds there and the trunk that must be seven feet long by thirty inches or better wide. But I don't have the means to move it.
 
doubledip said:
Wood Duck said:
Black Walnut. Nice firewood. I am afraid it is cut too short to make a table. Maybe tops for stools?

That was my first thought, a nice little three legged stool to place in front of the stove when I'm loading.

There are some big rounds there and the trunk that must be seven feet long by thirty inches or better wide. But I don't have the means to move it.

Wish you where closer. Very thin outer layer on those splitts trunk should be some nice lumber.
 
doubledip said:
Wood Duck said:
Black Walnut. Nice firewood. I am afraid it is cut too short to make a table. Maybe tops for stools?



There are some big rounds there and the trunk that must be seven feet long by thirty inches or better wide. But I don't have the means to move it.

Ask around,check in classified ads or phone book for anyone with a portable sawmill,that sounds like it would make some nice 2"-3"thick planks. :coolsmile:
 
Red Elm. I've been burning alot of it this year. Black walnut wood is darker than that, and generally has more sapwood. Also, black walnut bark is not greenish/brown, it's gray/brown/black.

Also, look at the twigs from the tree, and the leaves on the ground from where you got the tree. Walnut has compound leaves, while Red elm has simple leaves. That's easiest way to tell.
http://www.robinsonlibrary.com/science/botany/anatomy/graphics/leaftypes.gif
 
chinkapin_oak said:
Red Elm. I've been burning alot of it this year. Black walnut wood is darker than that, and generally has more sapwood. Also, black walnut bark is not greenish/brown, it's gray/brown/black.

Also, look at the twigs from the tree, and the leaves on the ground from where you got the tree. Walnut has compound leaves, while Red elm has simple leaves. That's easiest way to tell.
http://www.robinsonlibrary.com/science/botany/anatomy/graphics/leaftypes.gif

How does that white clover burn? Many BTUs in it? ;) :)
 
chinkapin_oak said:
Red Elm. I've been burning alot of it this year. Black walnut wood is darker than that, and generally has more sapwood. Also, black walnut bark is not greenish/brown, it's gray/brown/black.

Also, look at the twigs from the tree, and the leaves on the ground from where you got the tree. Walnut has compound leaves, while Red elm has simple leaves. That's easiest way to tell.
http://www.robinsonlibrary.com/science/botany/anatomy/graphics/leaftypes.gif


The bark is green because it has moss on it!! :) That is no doubt about it.....Black Walnut....
 
Black Walnut isn't really dark until after it has cured BTW. It really has a purplish-gray tint to it when freshly cut and split
 
I've not encountered much elm around here, but I agree with the others that it looks like walnut to me.
 
jlove1974 said:
Black Walnut isn't really dark until after it has cured BTW. It really has a purplish-gray tint to it when freshly cut and split

lol I have cut a little walnut and l looks just like this...
 

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chinkapin_oak said:
Red Elm. I've been burning alot of it this year. Black walnut wood is darker than that, and generally has more sapwood. Also, black walnut bark is not greenish/brown, it's gray/brown/black.

Also, look at the twigs from the tree, and the leaves on the ground from where you got the tree. Walnut has compound leaves, while Red elm has simple leaves. That's easiest way to tell.
http://www.robinsonlibrary.com/science/botany/anatomy/graphics/leaftypes.gif

Red elm is heavy and not stringy? Don't know what kind of elm we have around here, but it's fairly lightweight and a friggin' b***ard to split because the fibers are so tough and intertwined.

Color of the wood aside, the grain of the wood he's got there sure doesn't resemble the elm around here even remotely.
 
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