Home Depot sale on wood pellets

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turbotech said:
What I read from all this is that HD and Lowes won't be dropping the price another 10-15% before the end of the season. Maybe it is time to get some Greene Teams for 187/ton and some Okies for the heart of the cold season.
In terms of the current pricing vs the amount of work and cost to make a wood pellet I think it is too low. But that is just an opinion of a board stacker that used to work at a mill. I guess that is why I was only a laborer.

Its not what it cost to make it that matters, its what is someone willing to pay for it. Consumers will ultimately set the price, because if they don't buy, then pellet stoves go away, and we go back to burning fossil fuels. If the work and cost(savings) of using pellets over oil isn't worth it, then why buy pellets?
 
lordgrinz said:
Its not what it cost to make it that matters, its what is someone willing to pay for it. Consumers will ultimately set the price, because if they don't buy, then pellet stoves go away, and we go back to burning fossil fuels. If the work and cost(savings) of using pellets over oil isn't worth it, then why buy pellets?

How about each of us putting a little effort into using less oil so that those that want to kill us get less of our money to help them do that. I'm not a tree hugger but if we became energy independent (we've got enough resources and technical knowledge to do this) then that would put them back to living in tents and then they'd no longer be a threat.

On a personal note, I can run my heat pumps for less then it costs me to run my pellet stove at least when the temp is in the 30's or higher (which is normally much of the time). However, I like the heat of the pellet stove and having one room warmer then the rest of the house. I'll trade a little cost and work for that. Now if there was a big price difference in price then I wouldn't run the stove as often. The great thing is that this summer I'll be able to buy some local pellets at a very good savings (for this area) and then pellets will be cheaper to use then my heat pumps :) I'm going to pick up enough to last me 4-5 years!
 
Greg M said:
lordgrinz said:
Its not what it cost to make it that matters, its what is someone willing to pay for it. Consumers will ultimately set the price, because if they don't buy, then pellet stoves go away, and we go back to burning fossil fuels. If the work and cost(savings) of using pellets over oil isn't worth it, then why buy pellets?

How about each of us putting a little effort into using less oil so that those that want to kill us get less of our money to help them do that. I'm not a tree hugger but if we became energy independent (we've got enough resources and technical knowledge to do this) then that would put them back to living in tents and then they'd no longer be a threat.

On a personal note, I can run my heat pumps for less then it costs me to run my pellet stove at least when the temp is in the 30's or higher (which is normally much of the time). However, I like the heat of the pellet stove and having one room warmer then the rest of the house. I'll trade a little cost and work for that. Now if there was a big price difference in price then I wouldn't run the stove as often. The great thing is that this summer I'll be able to buy some local pellets at a very good savings (for this area) and then pellets will be cheaper to use then my heat pumps :) I'm going to pick up enough to last me 4-5 years!

I am in this to save money, most people are as well, the consumer makes the choice not a political stance. This is why this country is so messed up, you can't and shouldn't force people to pick a certain direction. If there is a better and cheaper solution, then put it on the market, people will buy it! Like it or not money drives the world, either build and sell a good product that saves the consumer money, or lose to the next guy.
 
lordgrinz said:
Greg M said:
lordgrinz said:
Its not what it cost to make it that matters, its what is someone willing to pay for it. Consumers will ultimately set the price, because if they don't buy, then pellet stoves go away, and we go back to burning fossil fuels. If the work and cost(savings) of using pellets over oil isn't worth it, then why buy pellets?

How about each of us putting a little effort into using less oil so that those that want to kill us get less of our money to help them do that. I'm not a tree hugger but if we became energy independent (we've got enough resources and technical knowledge to do this) then that would put them back to living in tents and then they'd no longer be a threat.

On a personal note, I can run my heat pumps for less then it costs me to run my pellet stove at least when the temp is in the 30's or higher (which is normally much of the time). However, I like the heat of the pellet stove and having one room warmer then the rest of the house. I'll trade a little cost and work for that. Now if there was a big price difference in price then I wouldn't run the stove as often. The great thing is that this summer I'll be able to buy some local pellets at a very good savings (for this area) and then pellets will be cheaper to use then my heat pumps :) I'm going to pick up enough to last me 4-5 years!

I am in this to save money, most people are as well, the consumer makes the choice not a political stance. This is why this country is so messed up, you can't and shouldn't force people to pick a certain direction. If there is a better and cheaper solution, then put it on the market, people will buy it! Like it or not money drives the world, either build and sell a good product that saves the consumer money, or lose to the next guy.

I like the idea of becoming less dependent on oil, I love my pellet stove. But for most people, if HHO was around $2/gallon and you knew it would stay there then I think alot of pellet burners would turn to oil.

The problem I have with oil is the volatility. Not long ago I could get oil delivered and pay cash at $1.92/gal. Today, cash prices in my area are $3.19/gal and if you locked in over the summer you may have been able to get it for $2.80. In that time, the price of pellets in my area has stayed consistent at $220-$250/ton, I like that.
 
Bigjim13 said:
lordgrinz said:
Greg M said:
lordgrinz said:
Its not what it cost to make it that matters, its what is someone willing to pay for it. Consumers will ultimately set the price, because if they don't buy, then pellet stoves go away, and we go back to burning fossil fuels. If the work and cost(savings) of using pellets over oil isn't worth it, then why buy pellets?

How about each of us putting a little effort into using less oil so that those that want to kill us get less of our money to help them do that. I'm not a tree hugger but if we became energy independent (we've got enough resources and technical knowledge to do this) then that would put them back to living in tents and then they'd no longer be a threat.

On a personal note, I can run my heat pumps for less then it costs me to run my pellet stove at least when the temp is in the 30's or higher (which is normally much of the time). However, I like the heat of the pellet stove and having one room warmer then the rest of the house. I'll trade a little cost and work for that. Now if there was a big price difference in price then I wouldn't run the stove as often. The great thing is that this summer I'll be able to buy some local pellets at a very good savings (for this area) and then pellets will be cheaper to use then my heat pumps :) I'm going to pick up enough to last me 4-5 years!

I am in this to save money, most people are as well, the consumer makes the choice not a political stance. This is why this country is so messed up, you can't and shouldn't force people to pick a certain direction. If there is a better and cheaper solution, then put it on the market, people will buy it! Like it or not money drives the world, either build and sell a good product that saves the consumer money, or lose to the next guy.

I like the idea of becoming less dependent on oil, I love my pellet stove. But for most people, if HHO was around $2/gallon and you knew it would stay there then I think alot of pellet burners would turn to oil.

The problem I have with oil is the volatility. Not long ago I could get oil delivered and pay cash at $1.92/gal. Today, cash prices in my area are $3.19/gal and if you locked in over the summer you may have been able to get it for $2.80. In that time, the price of pellets in my area has stayed consistent at $220-$250/ton, I like that.

The problem I have with pellets to oil comparisons is the missing factor of delivery charge, with oil, the delivery charge is already factored in, with pellets its all over the place. A $250 ton of pallets is really $275 for me, thats what Okies are going for, so that what it takes to put a quality pellet in my stove, not to mention the restacking i have to do in the cellar. HHO here today is $2.98
 
lordgrinz said:
Greg M said:
lordgrinz said:
Its not what it cost to make it that matters, its what is someone willing to pay for it. Consumers will ultimately set the price, because if they don't buy, then pellet stoves go away, and we go back to burning fossil fuels. If the work and cost(savings) of using pellets over oil isn't worth it, then why buy pellets?

How about each of us putting a little effort into using less oil so that those that want to kill us get less of our money to help them do that. I'm not a tree hugger but if we became energy independent (we've got enough resources and technical knowledge to do this) then that would put them back to living in tents and then they'd no longer be a threat.

On a personal note, I can run my heat pumps for less then it costs me to run my pellet stove at least when the temp is in the 30's or higher (which is normally much of the time). However, I like the heat of the pellet stove and having one room warmer then the rest of the house. I'll trade a little cost and work for that. Now if there was a big price difference in price then I wouldn't run the stove as often. The great thing is that this summer I'll be able to buy some local pellets at a very good savings (for this area) and then pellets will be cheaper to use then my heat pumps :) I'm going to pick up enough to last me 4-5 years!

I am in this to save money, most people are as well, the consumer makes the choice not a political stance. This is why this country is so messed up, you can't and shouldn't force people to pick a certain direction. If there is a better and cheaper solution, then put it on the market, people will buy it! Like it or not money drives the world, either build and sell a good product that saves the consumer money, or lose to the next guy.

You've nailed the problem! Me me me me me me me and only what affects me today. Who cares about anyone else or what we're leaving for the generations to come after we're gone. Sorry but you live in a country that became great because enough men didn't think about themselves first. You also live in a country that's in decline because today not enough people are willing to put self aside for the good of the country and for the good of those coming after us. Hopefully our children will make better decisions then we're making.

BTW, I'm also guilty of the same thing. However, I'm realizing that I've got to change so that I'm not part of what messes it up for my children and their children. I'll never be one of those environmental wackos but I do realize that we've got to find a balance. We are making a mess that the next generations are going to have to clean up.
 
Greg M said:
Sorry but you live in a country that became great because enough men didn't think about themselves first.

You are kidding yourself if you believe that, they absolutely thought of themselves first. They rebelled against government authority, against taxes(money), today when we think like this we are somehow criminals. You believe we should spend more money because it would be better for everyone? I wonder how these men would feel about King George telling them they had to spend more for goods for the betterment of everyone.
 
lordgrinz said:
Greg M said:
Sorry but you live in a country that became great because enough men didn't think about themselves first.

You are kidding yourself if you believe that, they absolutely thought of themselves first. They rebelled against government authority, against taxes(money), today when we think like this we are somehow criminals. You believe we should spend more money because it would be better for everyone? I wonder how these men would feel about King George telling them they had to spend more for goods for the betterment of everyone.

Wealthy men risked their lives for freedom. The easier thing for them would have been to just live in peace and enjoy their wealth. Obviously you haven't read the Declaration of Independence.

"But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such government, and to provide new guards for their future security."

These men that you label as self serving saw it as their duty to provide for future security and they risked their money and their lives in order to fulfill that duty. Taxes was just one of many reasons listed.

"And for the support of this declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor."

That statement doesn't sound selfish to me. I'm not saying people that always put self first are criminals, I'm just saying that when all we do is think of ourself then we're selfish. I'm seeing the need to think of the future that I'm going to leave behind for those that come after me. I'm thankful for what previous generations left for me to enjoy (talking about our country).
 
Greg M said:
lordgrinz said:
Greg M said:
Sorry but you live in a country that became great because enough men didn't think about themselves first.

You are kidding yourself if you believe that, they absolutely thought of themselves first. They rebelled against government authority, against taxes(money), today when we think like this we are somehow criminals. You believe we should spend more money because it would be better for everyone? I wonder how these men would feel about King George telling them they had to spend more for goods for the betterment of everyone.

Wealthy men risked their lives for freedom. The easier thing for them would have been to just live in peace and enjoy their wealth. Obviously you haven't read the Declaration of Independence.

"But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such government, and to provide new guards for their future security."

These men that you label as self serving saw it as their duty to provide for future security and they risked their money and their lives in order to fulfill that duty. Taxes was just one of many reasons listed.

"And for the support of this declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor."

That statement doesn't sound selfish to me. I'm not saying people that always put self first are criminals, I'm just saying that when all we do is think of ourself then we're selfish. I'm seeing the need to think of the future that I'm going to leave behind for those that come after me. I'm thankful for what previous generations left for me to enjoy (talking about our country).

Again you are kidding yourself, but keep believing!
 
You guys are a bad influence on me, I stopped at HD on the way home from work last night in a sleet and snow storm and bought the last ton of Stove Chow they had and got soaked loading them into my basement to boot. That brings me to 4 tons, one more from Lowes and i'll be set for 2 years worth of heating. Who knows if the price has bottomed out at 187.00, from what some people are saying, they are losing money at this price so i'll buy as many as I can fit in my basement at this price and try to buy more when the prices are right....
 
chris288 said:
You guys are a bad influence on me, I stopped at HD on the way home from work last night in a sleet and snow storm and bought the last ton of Stove Chow they had and got soaked loading them into my basement to boot. That brings me to 4 tons, one more from Lowes and i'll be set for 2 years worth of heating. Who knows if the price has bottomed out at 187.00, from what some people are saying, they are losing money at this price so i'll buy as many as I can fit in my basement at this price and try to buy more when the prices are right....

Now that is a hardcore pellet addict. It was worth it though if you got the last ton. I am still debating on waiting it out to see if the 187 drops anoth 10-15% or just go with the 187.
 
chris288 said:
You guys are a bad influence on me, I stopped at HD on the way home from work last night in a sleet and snow storm and bought the last ton of Stove Chow they had and got soaked loading them into my basement to boot. That brings me to 4 tons, one more from Lowes and i'll be set for 2 years worth of heating. Who knows if the price has bottomed out at 187.00, from what some people are saying, they are losing money at this price so i'll buy as many as I can fit in my basement at this price and try to buy more when the prices are right....
Bad influence or good influence take it for what it's worth. Deals like this don't happen too often so get them tons stock piled while it lasts.
 
turbotech said:
chris288 said:
You guys are a bad influence on me, I stopped at HD on the way home from work last night in a sleet and snow storm and bought the last ton of Stove Chow they had and got soaked loading them into my basement to boot. That brings me to 4 tons, one more from Lowes and i'll be set for 2 years worth of heating. Who knows if the price has bottomed out at 187.00, from what some people are saying, they are losing money at this price so i'll buy as many as I can fit in my basement at this price and try to buy more when the prices are right....

Now that is a hardcore pellet addict. It was worth it though if you got the last ton. I am still debating on waiting it out to see if the 187 drops anoth 10-15% or just go with the 187.

Dont know how long you've had your stove, but we've been paying between 250 and 300.00 / ton the last 3-4 years, so 187.00 is awfully attractive right now. when I bought my 1st stove back in 97 premium pellets could be had for 99.00 / ton...
 
Hell you guys should open a small business and sell those pellets and make a profit for yourself...
;-)
 
Have a chance to get Presto logs , or infernos from Lowes at 187. Are the prestos any good? The black cover on the Presto pallet says lignetics. Are they made by the same people? Are they comparable to lignetics ?
 
I know for a fact I can get 6 tons in my basement i'm just afraid i'm going to go down there one day and there is going to be a huge hole where my pellets " USED " to be. :)
 
BBennett said:
Have a chance to get Presto logs , or infernos from Lowes at 187. Are the prestos any good? The black cover on the Presto pallet says lignetics. Are they made by the same people? Are they comparable to lignetics ?
Don't bother with the Inferno's, no heat output and real dirty. I have been using the Prestologs with good success. They have some ash build up and the heat output is as good or slightly better than the Stove Chow that HD has when burning them in my stove. None of the big box pellets will burn clean like the quality more expensive brands.
 
Anyone know the HD and Lowes price for pellets in January of 2008, 2009, 2010? If both companies are losing money then why do they keep ordering more. I just went to one the other day and they had more than they had a few weeks ago. That kind of supports my 10-15% lower pricing.
 
mid season 08 HD was up to 300.00, one store wanted 350.00... 09 250.00 - 275.00.... 2010 I bought from the local nursery for 289.00, think HD was 250.00 ? not sure.
 
FordMastertech said:
BBennett said:
Have a chance to get Presto logs , or infernos from Lowes at 187. Are the prestos any good? The black cover on the Presto pallet says lignetics. Are they made by the same people? Are they comparable to lignetics ?
Don't bother with the Inferno's, no heat output and real dirty. I have been using the Prestologs with good success. They have some ash build up and the heat output is as good or slightly better than the Stove Chow that HD has when burning them in my stove. None of the big box pellets will burn clean like the quality more expensive brands.

thanks I have not read too many good things about infernos , wasnt thinking too hard on buying them. I think I will pull the trigger on 2 tons of prestos though, trying to build up my pig lot :p
 
Just got back from the HD in Butler, Pa. Finalized my purchase of 7 ton of Prestologs.
Including delivery, sales tax on the delivery charge, and with the veterans discount,
my total cost per ton is $169.75.....
I have been using the same pellets this heating season, and as noted above, a little ash,
but a good heat.
I just did not want to wait till the fall and take a chance on what I had to pay. Believe
that I made the good choice and investment. Peace of mind....I will have a great summer!!
 
Yup, just bought 2 tons and 14 bags myself, putting me over 5 tons in storage so far( still searching for deals. i think i can store about 9 tons in my basement and more in the garage if i cant kick the habit ;) ), and i will also have piece of mind and no worries this summer while every one moans about the cost of oil. :p
 
chris288 said:
Pellets will be even cheaper next year when nobody is buying them because they are stacked to the gills this year at " rock bottom " prices.

Lets hope so....
or since these people are stock piling the prices will sky rocket so they stop buying.. hmm, sounds familar, who does that, oh yea the gas companies...
 
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