New to forum, need help with building a hearth

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SouthernPride

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Jan 19, 2011
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The South
So im new to the forum and to wood stoves, i purchased a inexpensive Voglezang stove to help cut my electric bill. Any how i was thinking of building a Brick Hearth,and really dont know how big i should make the hearth. I would also like to brick behind the stove ,was hoping this would allow me to move my stove closer to the wall. So the home is a Manufactured home, i have bought the through the wall chimney set up. Any help would be appreciated.
 
I'm glad to see you joined up. People here are great. Provide some more detail, ie. stove placement, room size etc...
 
well the room for now is 12 x 32 , it will be opened up to 20x32 in the future. I plan on placing the stove at the 15 foot mark which will be pretty close to center of the room. I would like to keep the stove as close to the wall as possible without worrying about my home burning down. This is the stove i bought http://www.vogelzang.com/browse.cfm/deluxe-boxwood-stove/4,14.html I bought it for several reasons the first being for heat,the second for being able to cook, if needed. I have purchased 2 sheets of durock cement board and have what i believe to be enough bricks. Just want to do it right the first time,because im limited on funds do to loss of employment.
 
Also, first read the Vogelzang manual to see what the clearance-to-combustibles requirements are, as well as the required "r" value of the hearth pad. Then do a search on this website for articles pertaining to stove installation, hearth pads, and stove clearances. You'll learn a lot in a short time, then you can ask some questions that will be of help in your specific situation.
 
I don't want to throw a wrench in your plans, but you mentioned wanting to do this the right way. The website has this statement at the bottom: "May NOT be installed in mobile homes, manufactured homes, trailers or tents. (NO Exceptions)" - not sure if you saw it and wanted to be sure you know that they may have this statement for safety reasons.
 
SouthernPride said:
So im new to the forum and to wood stoves, i purchased a inexpensive Voglezang stove to help cut my electric bill. Any how i was thinking of building a Brick Hearth,and really dont know how big i should make the hearth. I would also like to brick behind the stove ,was hoping this would allow me to move my stove closer to the wall. So the home is a Manufactured home, i have bought the through the wall chimney set up. Any help would be appreciated.


Um, that page says that the stove isn't to be installed in a manufactured home. I believe that if you check it out, all the other Vogelzang stoves will be the same.

Just an FYI.
 
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Im very much aware of the statement. Im sure the statement is there for some reason. But the way i see it the majority of homes in this area are pier and beam. How much of a difference is there between the two. And i should add that i have rebuilt all the walls and have them sheetrocked,the floors have been replaced as well. So the only difference i see is my home has a metal frame attached to it along with the pier and beams.
 
This stove is not UL approved and has a low reputation for quality and controllability. I would not put it in a home, nevermind in an application in which the manufacturer has clearly stated - No Exceptions! The floor protection info is on page 4 of the manual including size. We can't help much more. Most folks here have not dealt with a leg falling off a hot stove or one with cherry red sides.

Might ask how much saving electricity compares with saving the house and possibly lives. For more information, check with your insurance company.
 
BeGreen said:
This stove is not UL approved and has a low reputation for quality and controllability. I would not put it in a home, nevermind in an application in which the manufacturer has clearly stated - No Exceptions! The floor protection info is on page 4 of the manual including size. We can't help much more. Most folks here have not dealt with a leg falling off a hot stove or one with cherry red sides.

Might ask how much saving electricity compares with saving the house and possibly lives. For more information, check with your insurance company.
Well thanks for the info, ill see what other options are out there for me.
 
SouthernPride said:
BeGreen said:
This stove is not UL approved and has a low reputation for quality and controllability. I would not put it in a home, nevermind in an application in which the manufacturer has clearly stated - No Exceptions! The floor protection info is on page 4 of the manual including size. We can't help much more. Most folks here have not dealt with a leg falling off a hot stove or one with cherry red sides.

Might ask how much saving electricity compares with saving the house and possibly lives. For more information, check with your insurance company.
Well thanks for the info, ill see what other options are out there for me.

if for some reason you do put that stove in the house the clearence to combustibles would have to be somewhere in the middle of your 12'x32' room!! DONT DO IT, plain and simple.........
 
SouthernPride said:
BeGreen said:
This stove is not UL approved and has a low reputation for quality and controllability. I would not put it in a home, nevermind in an application in which the manufacturer has clearly stated - No Exceptions! The floor protection info is on page 4 of the manual including size. We can't help much more. Most folks here have not dealt with a leg falling off a hot stove or one with cherry red sides.

Might ask how much saving electricity compares with saving the house and possibly lives. For more information, check with your insurance company.
Well thanks for the info, ill see what other options are out there for me.

We are definitely here to help you with a safer, legal installation. One thing to note, it is often safer, better and cheaper to install straight up, through the roof than through the wall. The stove vents better and it looks better too. This is important with one story homes and short flues and particularly important in mild climates.
 
SP- how far south are you?
 
My brother has the same exact stove in his garage . Very Easily overfired . Listen to the others and look to get another stove . That thing is equivalent to a campfire
 
Aren't the small Englanders Mobile/Manufactured home approved? What about that new one they have, it's in the ballpark pricewise.
I've got some friends with the 13 in a mobile home, would that work? Not theirs, you'll have to buy your own. Might be able to pick one up this time of year at a markdown.
 
PapaDave said:
Aren't the small Englanders Mobile/Manufactured home approved? What about that new one they have, it's in the ballpark pricewise.
I've got some friends with the 13 in a mobile home, would that work? Not theirs, you'll have to buy your own. Might be able to pick one up this time of year at a markdown.

Yes the Englanders, except for the 12NC, are Mobile/Manufactured home approved. Like someone else said, these stoves do throw alot of heat and will overfire very quickly and easily. A buddy has one in a hunting cabin. If the door is open they also have the tendency to let out smoke between the top and the side joints. I'll trust my 115 yr. old Round Oak stove before I'd trust one of these.
 
BeGreen said:
SouthernPride said:
BeGreen said:
This stove is not UL approved and has a low reputation for quality and controllability. I would not put it in a home, nevermind in an application in which the manufacturer has clearly stated - No Exceptions! The floor protection info is on page 4 of the manual including size. We can't help much more. Most folks here have not dealt with a leg falling off a hot stove or one with cherry red sides.

Might ask how much saving electricity compares with saving the house and possibly lives. For more information, check with your insurance company.
Well thanks for the info, ill see what other options are out there for me.

We are definitely here to help you with a safer, legal installation. One thing to note, it is often safer, better and cheaper to install straight up, through the roof than through the wall. The stove vents better and it looks better too. This is important with one story homes and short flues and particularly important in mild climates.
Thanks, i do appreciate the help. And i will take the advice from all of you here.
 
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