Yesterday, in Upstate NY (Rochester), the temps reached -4 degrees. MY wife had off from school since that district closed. After a few reloads, we finally had our basement up to 75 degrees. I'm just curious, if we were to switch to the Oslo, how much hotter could we get, what would be the degree difference. We live a 1200 sq ft ranch, stove is in front of our staircase in our finished basement. Basement room is 10 x 20 roughly. Fairly good insulation. No ceiling in the basement, went for the rustic look and just painted the ceiling. 75 is comfortable, but that required all day to get there (plus faster reloads). Usually hovers at 70 degrees. I don't know if there is a simple formula to figure this out, but just curious.
Castine vs. Oslo
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mikepinto65
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Im just taking a guess here but based on the btu differences i'd bet you would see 78-80 in the basement after two loads. I average 74-80 in the lower 800sf and 60-68 in the upper 1000.
Assuming that you are running the Castine hot, I'm not sure how much hotter it would get down there. But there certainly would be less refills to keep it at temperature and it might get warm a bit faster.
I own both and would bet you would see no real or meaningful temp increase. As was said, you could space out the reloads a bit more though.
Joe
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How hot are your stove top temps? As has already posted it seems the difference in heating potential would be limited, but the size of the firebox would just determine how often you have to load in fuel. My stove often reaches 650-750 when trying to keep the house warm in coldest weather. (Stove is in the basement surrounded completely by cement and stone surfaces.)
Yesterday was the coldest day ever since getting the Castine last year, and I was impressed to get the basement up to 75 and upstairs to 60. Yesterday, we ran it up to 700 and reloaded at 400....during most cold days, load it up, let it get to little over 600, turn down the air, goes up to 650ish, let it go down to half way, peaks at around 700 and then turn down the air a couple times in 15 minute intervals, and it can be good up to 8 hours, 10 overnight (embers remaining, throw some kindle, get a re-start with no match). Thanks for the info...We love the Castine, but just like anything, you always want something bigger and better....I think we were just afraid during those normal cold nights, we'd be blown out of the room. We were just curious, thanks for all the feedback!
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gpcollen1
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An insulated room 10x20 and you can only get it to 75 with that Castine? I think either your burning is wrong or your wood is not that good - or your stove is vented into a chimney and not into a liner and the draft is no good.
I have a 20x24 living room, cathedral ceiling, with my Castine in it and I can hit 80 in that room if I try when it is cold like now. In a few hours in the AM I can get it to 75. And with my set up the heat escapes that room up the stairs and heats the bedrooms. Seriously, something is not right.
BTW - Sure the Oslo will pump out more heat but I would check your set up.
I have a 20x24 living room, cathedral ceiling, with my Castine in it and I can hit 80 in that room if I try when it is cold like now. In a few hours in the AM I can get it to 75. And with my set up the heat escapes that room up the stairs and heats the bedrooms. Seriously, something is not right.
BTW - Sure the Oslo will pump out more heat but I would check your set up.
Hmmm...you got me thinking, so I got the tape measure out
The stove is in the basement...
Correction on room size......25-21 with a slight alcove
I got a real picture and a top view picture (Not drawn to scale).
Vented properly with liner.
R11 insulation in the walls
Wood is DEFINITELY seasoned 15-18% moisture....
No insulation in the ceiling as it is painted, everything is exposed.
I hope we're doing everything efficiently.
The stove is in the basement...
Correction on room size......25-21 with a slight alcove
I got a real picture and a top view picture (Not drawn to scale).
Vented properly with liner.
R11 insulation in the walls
Wood is DEFINITELY seasoned 15-18% moisture....
No insulation in the ceiling as it is painted, everything is exposed.
I hope we're doing everything efficiently.
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CarbonNeutral
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gpcollen1
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Soadrocks said:
So Carpet and pad on slab? Then that is where your heat is going. I have an Avalon Olympic in my downstairs that is a bit like yours, though a bit less insulated probably. I can get that thing crankin in these temps and not break 75-78 sometimes. Either you need a bigger stove or you need to insulate the floor. Building Science has some great info on insulation and basements, of which this is the best...
http://www.buildingscience.com/documents/reports/rr-0309-renovating-your-basment
My family room/basement is only 1/2 height concrete walls and the floor but the issue is the same - radiating cold from the concrete. That room is next on the to do list for sure. Then I can get a soap stone stove in there or just something smaller like my Castine.
Looking at the setup, it appears to be very convection friendly. Is there a door at the top of the staircase? If so, is it closed when trying to achieve high temps in this room?
The door is completely OFF upstairs to allow cats/dog to go and come as they please. Yes, I think it is safe to assume we lose a lot of heat upstairs through the open staircase and ceiling.
Last night, without barely cranking the castine, we're in the mid 70's easily, and wouldn't need a reload for a long time.
Yes, concrete floor, pad, then carpet.
It's all good, just contemplating the Oslo down the road. I'm guessing some heat escapes to the laundry room as well too, plus I have a cheap thermometer, who knows who accurate it is. $6 digital one with humidity from Walmart.
Thanks for all the feedback thus far
We do appreciate it.
Last night, without barely cranking the castine, we're in the mid 70's easily, and wouldn't need a reload for a long time.
Yes, concrete floor, pad, then carpet.
It's all good, just contemplating the Oslo down the road. I'm guessing some heat escapes to the laundry room as well too, plus I have a cheap thermometer, who knows who accurate it is. $6 digital one with humidity from Walmart.
Thanks for all the feedback thus far
We do appreciate it.
You have a nicely convective setup, somewhat unusual for basement installs. I think the main difference with a larger stove will be longer burn times. Additional heat created would mean more heat heading upstairs. But it won't warm up the floors. However, if you get a stove with a blower, you may be able to warm up the downstairs faster. In the meantime, use an ottoman or footrest to keep the feet warmer and away from the cooler floor.
keep in mind....the room with the ottoman is a completely different room (our "reading room)....the big room which you can tell from the top view is where we spend all our time. we actually set up our bed down there to fully enjoy the room 24-7. it's so cozy
DanCorcoran
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DanCorcoran
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Soadrocks said:
That was it. My wife and I enjoyed seeing the dog with the cats (we have two dogs and three cats that hang together).
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