How can I hook up this pipe to this insert? Pictures
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Easy. You save yourself a lot of firewood and get a decent stove that uses efficient combustion technology. They all have round flue collars. You put that insert back on Craigs list and let someone else figure out how to put a round pipe into a rectangular hole.
That's the top of the stove? Yikes! I thought it was a damper plate!
I'm with CF, if that's the stove top, get rid of that thing!
I'm with CF, if that's the stove top, get rid of that thing!
KevinACrider said:
Hey guys. It's not a stove. Its an insert. And it looks pretty good.
Does that change anything? How can I hook this tube up? If not< I'm going to seal up this great looking fireplace and call it a day.
Is this what I need?
http://cgi.ebay.com/Wood-Stove-Inse...449?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item27af805011
http://cgi.ebay.com/Wood-Stove-Inse...449?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item27af805011
Hogwildz
Minister of Fire
Try efireplacestore.com - I bought my liner and thimble from them. Their shipping was really fast and they had the best prices I could find. Just hope nothing goes wrong, getting a hold of someone was impossible.
woodlanddirect has good prices as well. That stove you have there is going to be more trouble than its worth. Real talk, you will regret going the cheap route on a stove. Do your homework here before you decide.
Hogwildz
Minister of Fire
No offense, but that thing is old, inefficient, and does not look up to snuff for serious fires.
It is just a notch above an open fireplace. Very similar to the Fuego Flame POS I pulled out of my fireplace when I moved in here, and replaced with a serious insert.
Might be ok for ambiance, but for serious burning & heat, that ain't going to cut it.
It is just a notch above an open fireplace. Very similar to the Fuego Flame POS I pulled out of my fireplace when I moved in here, and replaced with a serious insert.
Might be ok for ambiance, but for serious burning & heat, that ain't going to cut it.
Red5 said:
It's a dirty old dog that may be ok, but it's not a clean burning or efficient unit. But there are transition adapters out there. Your best bet would be to find the make and model of the unit, then give the folks at Woodman's a call. Even if you don't have that info they may be able to help you with this transition adapter.
http://www.woodmanspartsplus.com/
hogwild said it the way i was thinking it. Do your research here on the forums, many members, with many different inserts. DO NOT go cheap on your insert unless it suits your needs. Do you want to be up every 3 hours to load your insert, do you want to be fearful that if it burns too hot (really good wood) it will be ruined, do you want it to be too small (you will be cold)?
shop around read the specs, compare and ask questions here.
shop around read the specs, compare and ask questions here.
firefighterjake
Minister of Fire
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you need a boot, and an 8-6 reducer.
bad idea to vent that unit using 6" pipe--it should be 8"
but like they mentioned, the stove you have there is worth too little to install an expensive liner imo
bad idea to vent that unit using 6" pipe--it should be 8"
but like they mentioned, the stove you have there is worth too little to install an expensive liner imo
Man... tough crowd. You guys are borderline rude. Glad I have thick skin.
I'd love to buy a new high efficiency model but the wife just headed south and I'm in this large house looking at ways to lower my utility bills. Perhaps burning wood is not the answer. But if it is I'd like ideas on how to make this unit work. The pictures make it look bad but when it is in place it looks pretty good.
If this thing isn't going to work then I will take wood planks and seal up the entire fireplace. Shame to do this as I have such a large nice creekwall fireplace but right now it's all about money.
So what do i need to make this thing work?
Here is what I've been told. I need to take this flex pipe and run it up the chimney. It reaches above the point where the chimnet goes from being a large area and into a smaller squared area.. Told I need to design a cap at that point. Then I need to seal off this tube where it goes through the flew area. (Still trying to figure out how I'm going to do this). Then told I need to get this part and attach the insert directly to this tube.
So if you can help me get this job done I would appraciate it. If you want to hurl insults my way please keep them to yourself. When I post on forums I try and spread the knowledge and love. If there is anything I can help a fellow person out with then I go out of my way and try very hard to do this.
This is an area that I don't know very much about. And I am reaching out to you for help in figuring out how to make this work.
I'd love to buy a new high efficiency model but the wife just headed south and I'm in this large house looking at ways to lower my utility bills. Perhaps burning wood is not the answer. But if it is I'd like ideas on how to make this unit work. The pictures make it look bad but when it is in place it looks pretty good.
If this thing isn't going to work then I will take wood planks and seal up the entire fireplace. Shame to do this as I have such a large nice creekwall fireplace but right now it's all about money.
So what do i need to make this thing work?
Here is what I've been told. I need to take this flex pipe and run it up the chimney. It reaches above the point where the chimnet goes from being a large area and into a smaller squared area.. Told I need to design a cap at that point. Then I need to seal off this tube where it goes through the flew area. (Still trying to figure out how I'm going to do this). Then told I need to get this part and attach the insert directly to this tube.
So if you can help me get this job done I would appraciate it. If you want to hurl insults my way please keep them to yourself. When I post on forums I try and spread the knowledge and love. If there is anything I can help a fellow person out with then I go out of my way and try very hard to do this.
This is an area that I don't know very much about. And I am reaching out to you for help in figuring out how to make this work.
We're not being rude. We're advising you on what you can do to safely and efficiently heat your home.
Now, to answer your questions. It seems you confused on how this works. The chimney liner will connect to your insert boot (once you buy one) on top of your insert. It will run the ENTIRE length of the chimney and come out the top of the chimney. There is no connection points inside the chimney flue itself. You should have some extra liner sticking out the top of your chimney. You trim the excess off so it is even with the top of the chimney and attach your cap on this end.
If you look on YouTube there are plenty of videos showing how a fireplace insert and chimney liner are installed. Some will use insulation, some will not. Some will talk about block off plates and some will not but every single one of them has a chimney liner running directly from the insert all the way to the top of the chimney.
Now, to answer your questions. It seems you confused on how this works. The chimney liner will connect to your insert boot (once you buy one) on top of your insert. It will run the ENTIRE length of the chimney and come out the top of the chimney. There is no connection points inside the chimney flue itself. You should have some extra liner sticking out the top of your chimney. You trim the excess off so it is even with the top of the chimney and attach your cap on this end.
If you look on YouTube there are plenty of videos showing how a fireplace insert and chimney liner are installed. Some will use insulation, some will not. Some will talk about block off plates and some will not but every single one of them has a chimney liner running directly from the insert all the way to the top of the chimney.
I don't have enough tube. I only have about 12 feet or so. This will get me into teh small part of the chimney and that is about it. Currently if I just have a fire the fireplace it just sucks all of the heat out of the house. And it does not draw very well. This huge creekwall fireplace is also very large on teh inside. At least it is till it reaches the squared area. I was thinking that if I had enough tube to get me to that point it may draw better. It cuts out about 30 square feet of dead area between teh fire and the chimney.
firefighterjake
Minister of Fire
My own philosophy is to do something right or don't do it at all.
Hang in there Red5 . . . sometimes we may seem a bit crusty . . . and perhaps even a bit rude . . . but believe it or not most of us truly want to help other folks and want to offer guidance.
The two problems with your set up as I see it is that a) you get what you pay for with an old insert -- forgetting even the looks -- the problem is you will go through a fair amount of wood which can be a PITA if you have to scrounge or process your own wood and can get expensive if you have to buy and b) the issue with the liner is that it should extend all the way up for a good draft . . . not to mention for ease of cleaning, creosote production, etc.
Again, hang in there . . .
Hang in there Red5 . . . sometimes we may seem a bit crusty . . . and perhaps even a bit rude . . . but believe it or not most of us truly want to help other folks and want to offer guidance.
The two problems with your set up as I see it is that a) you get what you pay for with an old insert -- forgetting even the looks -- the problem is you will go through a fair amount of wood which can be a PITA if you have to scrounge or process your own wood and can get expensive if you have to buy and b) the issue with the liner is that it should extend all the way up for a good draft . . . not to mention for ease of cleaning, creosote production, etc.
Again, hang in there . . .
Splice on additional footage of rigid, 6" stainless liner to the top of the current flex liner so that you have enough. Be sure to add enough on top to make it past the chimney cap plate and accommodate a storm collar and cap. Then trim excess on the bottom as needed.
You would honestly be better off selling the insert, selling the liner, saving the money on the insert boot and other accessories you'll need and using the money to put towards a nicer insert installed correctly. You will save your money in the first 2 months by doing it correctly and having an efficient heat source.
By the time that insert is connected and able to house a fire, you will have lost more money in 1 years use than if you did it correctly.
Like Jake said, we're honestly trying to help. In this case, we are helping you avoid a costly mistake.
By the time that insert is connected and able to house a fire, you will have lost more money in 1 years use than if you did it correctly.
Like Jake said, we're honestly trying to help. In this case, we are helping you avoid a costly mistake.
BeGreen said:
A viable solution, but as someone else stated, doesn't that stove require an 8" liner anyway?
You have to consider building code and home owners insurance. What if something goes awry? The last thing you want is to be homeless with a mortgage payment because your insurance company wouldn't cover it.
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