One for the History buffs
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Adios Pantalones
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I know a fair bit about them. I've been to the Shaker village in Canterbury, I've seen "Shaker stoves". I've not seen any test to show that they are the equivalent of what we have now and I doubt that you have either or you'd give us more than broad claims.
If you can't have an adult conversation without insults, then I don't care to hear about this any more. My very first addition to the ignore list- sweet.
If you can't have an adult conversation without insults, then I don't care to hear about this any more. My very first addition to the ignore list- sweet.
Well, now now, what did you learn at your visit about how they heated and how they lived?
Left you lots of space to answer.... Well.... Well.... fact is you all don't know chit and I won't share. Tough poo. Talk the Talk, but so far you can't walk the walk.
I owe you nothing, I don't have to prove myself or what i have said. Little kids say "prove it" you all have not gotten any better.
Left you lots of space to answer.... Well.... Well.... fact is you all don't know chit and I won't share. Tough poo. Talk the Talk, but so far you can't walk the walk.
I owe you nothing, I don't have to prove myself or what i have said. Little kids say "prove it" you all have not gotten any better.
tcassavaugh
Minister of Fire
I immediately thought about the Shaker village in N.Y./Mass border area. Looking on line, i found an example of an old one....must be good. It sold for $4800.00 (http://www.jkrantiques.com/shaker_antiques_accessories_11.html and http://www.jkrantiques.com/shaker_antiques_furniture_17.html) and i think one is a CAD drawing. Looks like just a box stove to me. Nothing really that fancy. Thats the only old one i found. I did find a new stove called "Shaker" but not sure if thats what they were talking about (http://www.wittus.com/wpwoodshaker.htm) really ugly imho.
cass
cass
tcassavaugh said:
HMMMM, someone started a look. Was that Sabath Day Lake? And how did they heat and wash and do the laundry and all the other things we take for granted??????
tcassavaugh
Minister of Fire
littlesmokey said:
Nope, it was the Hancock Shaker Village, just over the N.Y. line on route 20 on the way to Pittsfield Mass (http://www.hancockshakervillage.org/). A rather busy place really.
cass
No one knows for sure. Info for you:
http://www.articlesnatch.com/Article/Origin-And-History-Of-The-Circular-Table-Saw/365252
http://www.articlesnatch.com/Article/Origin-And-History-Of-The-Circular-Table-Saw/365252
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fishingpol
Minister of Fire
I've been to both Canterbury and Sabbathday villages several years ago. I don't recall their stoves, but I have seen pictures in books. Most of the time the stove was near the center of the room, flue went up 8'-10' and then across horizontal about 15' give or take. I think they got as much heat out of the flue as they could. Must have been a creo nightmare.
Another picture I saw in a book was their stacks of wood for the winter. Several hundred cord c/s/s.
Another picture I saw in a book was their stacks of wood for the winter. Several hundred cord c/s/s.
btuser
Minister of Fire
littlesmokey said:
Yeah, I can heat the same building with my insert all the way to 30 degrees. As long as it doesn't get below freezing outside.
Two Summers ago we went to Strawberry Bank in Portsmouth NH. One of the homes was about 2000 sqft and considered very rich in its day. It was owned by a whaling captain. Every bedroom had a fireplace but one of them above the kitchen had a curious closet. When I asked about it the guide told me it was a pie cupboard. Christmas pies were made at Thanksgiving and then BROUGHT UP TO THE BEDROOM TO FREEZE UNTIL CHRISTMAS
That's how cold it was in one of the richest homes in Portsmouth. People simply lived differently.
jharkin
Minister of Fire
Man this is a funny thread.
fishing and btu nailed it I believe. The OP sees a tiy stove in a huge Shaker meeting house and just assumes that magically heated the room to 70F. So of course it has to be efficient right? RRRRRRR. BTU is right, they didn't keep their homes as warm as we do back then. They probably used the stove just to keep it above freezing in that room and to cook on. nothing more.
fishing and btu nailed it I believe. The OP sees a tiy stove in a huge Shaker meeting house and just assumes that magically heated the room to 70F. So of course it has to be efficient right? RRRRRRR. BTU is right, they didn't keep their homes as warm as we do back then. They probably used the stove just to keep it above freezing in that room and to cook on. nothing more.
rottiman
Minister of Fire
Since the original poster hasn't reponded since about 4:30 am, me thinks either his bottle is finally empty or the little plastic bag of "PARSLEY" is GONE,GONE,GONE..........................................Sweet Dreams my friend!
webbie
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The DEALER for a nickel ought to sell you lots of sweet dreams
AH, but the PUSHER is a monster...good god he'll leave your mind to SCREAM.
God Damn...the pusher.....
AH, but the PUSHER is a monster...good god he'll leave your mind to SCREAM.
God Damn...the pusher.....
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