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Kiver

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Jan 28, 2011
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Western Ma
Hello everyone, I am new to the whole wood pellet stove scene and had a few questions already answered by searching this site. A local radio station auctioned off a new Breckwell P2000fs stove and I was the high bidder at $1175 (hope I didn't overbid). I have an old home and the steam gas bill of around $700/month is killing me. I really hope it was a good buy because it is hard to find anything good in writing about the stove. I have no idea where I should put the stove. My home is a 1875 two family federal around 3100sq ft that I recently converted to a single family home. There is a non operational fire place in the center room on the first floor and there is a stove pipe to masonry chimney in the center of the upstairs.

What is my best set up....keeping the gas steam heat low and heating the bedrooms upstairs? Or will this give off enough heat to heat the upstairs?

My wife is a frigged woman and likes it toasty at night. Thanks, and happy to be here
 
No worries, mods will kick you over to the Pellet Pigs in a bit.

Lots of info on the Breckwell site, http://breckwell.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=82&Itemid=182

Plus, you tube video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdMPfl6tP7Y

Owners manual, http://breckwell.com/Manuals/P2000_2009_Manual.pdf

My advice, with a older larger home, work on heating the rooms you use most such as your main living room. Trying to push the stove to the max constanntly is rough on a Pellet stove.

Good Luck!
 
Welcome to the forum Kiver,

I'll let someone with a Breckwell talk about the stove, but I will mention that you can not install that stove in a bedroom.
 
SmokeyTheBear said:
Welcome to the forum Kiver,

I'll let someone with a Breckwell talk about the stove, but I will mention that you can not install that stove in a bedroom.

The fireplace on the first floor is in a dining room and the upstairs stove vent is in a kitchen
 
Kiver said:
SmokeyTheBear said:
Welcome to the forum Kiver,

I'll let someone with a Breckwell talk about the stove, but I will mention that you can not install that stove in a bedroom.

The fireplace on the first floor is in a dining room and the upstairs stove vent is in a kitchen

Dining room and kitchens are fine, bedrooms are off limits.

You want the stove where you spend the most time.
 
SmokeyTheBear said:
Kiver said:
SmokeyTheBear said:
Welcome to the forum Kiver,

I'll let someone with a Breckwell talk about the stove, but I will mention that you can not install that stove in a bedroom.

The fireplace on the first floor is in a dining room and the upstairs stove vent is in a kitchen

Dining room and kitchens are fine, bedrooms are off limits.

You want the stove where you spend the most time.

that would be the first floor

My steam heat is a one zone system and the thermostat is in the dining room so I am guessing I am going to have to do some thinking on where to move the thermostat. I guess I could move it to the second floor, and just time it to go on before we go to bed
 
Congrats on the P200fs and welcome. You got a great deal as far as I am concerned, sold a used one earlier this year for quite a bit more.
 
Kiver said:
.....A local radio station auctioned off a new Breckwell P2000fs stove and I was the high bidder at $1175 (hope I didn't overbid).....

You got a steal....the cheapest I've seen that stove new was about $2900.
 
Congrats on a nice deal! Good starter stove to get the feel of how pellets fair for you. Once you get the warm air moving around, The warmer you will be. Fans and fllor vents help!

Keep us posted on the install-Pictures or it didn't really happen. :) :cheese:
 
j-takeman said:
Congrats on a nice deal! Good starter stove to get the feel of how pellets fair for you. Once you get the warm air moving around, The warmer you will be. Fans and fllor vents help!

Keep us posted on the install-Pictures or it didn't really happen. :) :cheese:

Oh it happened and I will put up some install picks
http://www.947wmas.com/goout.asp?u=http://cbsma-auction.incentrev.com/

About the vents...I hate to put vents in the ceiling as I have nice tin ceilings and shiver at the thought of putting holes in them
 
Kiver said:
j-takeman said:
Congrats on a nice deal! Good starter stove to get the feel of how pellets fair for you. Once you get the warm air moving around, The warmer you will be. Fans and fllor vents help!

Keep us posted on the install-Pictures or it didn't really happen. :) :cheese:

Oh it happened and I will put up some install picks
http://www.947wmas.com/goout.asp?u=http://cbsma-auction.incentrev.com/

About the vents...I hate to put vents in the ceiling as I have nice tin ceilings and shiver at the thought of putting holes in them

Don't even THINK about cutting holes in the ceiling.
 
Congrats on winning the Breckwell, it's a very nice stove and should serve you well. Keep it clean and it will keep working and working.

If it were me I would install on the main floor, somewhere like the living or dining room, and I would install in the room thats nearest the stairway or opening that goes upstairs, because the warm air is going to rise, and it will go up to the second floor. You can use a thru the wall vent kit rather than poke holes in your ceilings. Venting is very important, its possibly the most important part of your install, you want to get a good draft so the stove will be able to burn properly. Some of us use a fan to "push" the warm air to other rooms, this can help to bring heat to your bedrooms.

The thing to remember and Im sure you may know, is pellet stoves are just space heaters, and generally used as an aid in heating, not meant to be the primary heat source, however many people use them successfully to warm an entire house.
 
Welcome and congrats on the score.

I would try and get the stove located in a central area that will allow the stove to be on an outside wall.

I am a very strong proponent of "Direct venting" the exhaust pipe through the wall.

I have 3 pellets stoves in our 2400 ft upstairs and 1 in a 1000 ft apartment downstairs.

Yesss these are space heaters, but if you locate the stove properly, the natural convection will allow the house to heat fairly well without having a really hot spot at the stove and the rest of the house be cold

If you can, keep the stove far enough from the wall that you can service it if need be without having to unhook the pipes.

A corner is a great place to put a stove.

Just be sure of whats outside the wall, where the studs are so you can get the pipe through without hitting anything (wiring)

There are several nice ready made floor protector pads available that you just "PLOP" down (even over carpet) and your set.

The new pellet pipe that has the "O ring" seals is great. Use a metal sticky tape on the inside joints anyway just to be sure of no leaks.

I would avoid a fireplace vent at all costs. And cutting holes in the ceiling is a royal PITA too.

Take a good look around the house, snap some piccys and post here if you like, of the spots that you think might be good and we can give you some opinions.


Good luck and keep us posted.

Snowy
 
I think the chimney is the only option. It is centrally located and I have 22 windows on the first floor. That and I have a slate roof and the snow fall off would kill any exterior piping. I'll post some picks. Otherwise I would love to have been able to direct vent it in a corner
 
front of home
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back of house
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side 1 (bedrooms on this side)
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side 2 (dining room where fireplace is)
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fireplace ( I was plying inside of it so it is a bit dirty)
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ceilings
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Too bad you didn't win an pellet insert since the fireplace vent seems to be a good option. I am not expert on venting but your chimney seems pretty high. I'm wondering if it is too high for a decent vent for a stove. Experts? I have a chimney vent but I only have a single level ranch, so my chimney isn't all that high.
 
SmokeyTheBear said:
What is in the chimney for flues?

Hopefully there are two.

Its a nightmare. I have never used the fireplace and there appears to be no liner. It also seems to be anything but a straight shot up. The oven upstairs shares the chimney and There seems to be no liner. Gotta love these old houses. Is this even an option at this point??
 
Kiver said:
SmokeyTheBear said:
What is in the chimney for flues?

Hopefully there are two.

Its a nightmare. I have never used the fireplace and there appears to be no liner. It also seems to be anything but a straight shot up. The oven upstairs shares the chimney and There seems to be no liner. Gotta love these old houses. Is this even an option at this point??

I wasn't expecting a liner any way, that isn't a problem as far as getting the stove installed, nor is the lack of a straight shot.

Here is the story, the stove requires its own flue.

In fact you likely already have a code violation there but I don't know for certain.

Yes old houses are my favorite kind. Whatever you do do not destroy that ceiling.

You might want to check out the forums on www.oldhouseweb.com if you haven't already found that site.
 
it appears the boiler may be running up this chimney.

there is another chimney in the front part of the home and a sealed fireplace in the living-room. Not knowing the condition of the interior of the chimney, I am beginning to feel that this is a lost cause

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Before tossing up your hands you need to find out what goes into what at your place and I see no reason why you can't find a place to do a straight out vent.

You don't really need to rush on this.
 
I believe I will be able to install this and was given a quote for the install. Does this seem high??


3†pellet pipe:

1 stove adaptor $15.77
1 x 45elbow $51.30
1 x 6†length $20.27
1 x 12†length $29.05
1 x wall pass through $54.80
1 x 3â€- 4†tee $87.15
3†total $258.34

4†pellet pipe:

4 x wall straps $92.48
3 x 60†length $255.81
2 x 45 elbows $116.18
1 x 12†length $31.02
1 x 3†length $125.80
1 x adj. length $43.62
1 x rain cap $50.84
4†total $715.75
+258.34
Pipe total $974.09
Labor +400.00
Total $1374.09
 
I still have some touching up to do on the hearth, but it is going to rain the next couple days and I cut the marble outside. I also have to stain and poly some oak trim I got for the bottom

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