1250sqft house kinda drafty Any Englander 30nc users?

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MillHeat

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Dec 17, 2010
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Do you think the Englander 30nch is going to be to much? 500sqft is up stairs. Well open floor plan. Would the 13 be a better buy?
 
Draftiness is the first thing to address. It will provide you with the greatest comfort and savings. Assuming you are going to be working hard on reducing heat loss, I would probably go for the 13NC or perhaps a different stove with a bit larger firebox, but not the full 3+cu ft of the 30NC. Maybe look at the Napoleon 1400 series too?
 
BeGreen said:
Draftiness is the first thing to address. It will provide you with the greatest comfort and savings. Assuming you are going to be working hard on reducing heat loss, I would probably go for the 13NC or perhaps a different stove with a bit larger firebox, but not the full 3+cu ft of the 30NC. Maybe look at the Napoleon 1400 series too?

We are addressing the draftness. It just going to take time. Every room we remoldel we install new windows and insulation. Can I get overnight burns with the 13NC?
 
What size furnace heats your house now? I'm guessing 80-100K BTU's. If you want enough for the really cold days I would go big, not that 3cuft is all that big.
 
Yes, it will give an overnight fire when the temps are milder. When it is very cold, a refill every 4-6 hrs may be needed to keep up. Will this be the only heat or is there backup?

This is a tougher situation because it is a small house. The ideal solution would be something in the 2 cu ft range with a cat. The Woodstock Fireview is an example of a stove that should give very long burn times without overwhelming the place. If you are shy on cats then I would consider a soapstone stove like the Hearthstone Heritage or a hybrid stove like the Quadrafire Cumberland Gap, Jotul Rangeley or the Pacific Energy Alderlea T5.
 
We have a propane furnace. But this year we been heating with kerosene heaters. Like the type of heat better.
Now I know this is a dumb question but I'll ask anyways. We have been having our house at 80 degrees. So wich one can provide us with this much heat?
 
Mill_Heat said:
We have a propane furnace. But this year we been heating with kerosene heaters. Like the type of heat better.
Now I know this is a dumb question but I'll ask anyways. We have been having our house at 80 degrees. So wich one can provide us with this much heat?


Go with the 30 if you like the house that warm.
 
I want to go with the Englander brand. I just want to make sure the 13nc is going to be enough stove for my house.
Plus I want a little leg room. So I thought the 30nc. I guessing the 30nc is just giving to much leg room then?
 
Mill_Heat said:
I want to go with the Englander brand. I just want to make sure the 13nc is going to be enough stove for my house.
Plus I want a little leg room. So I thought the 30nc. I guessing the 30nc is just giving to much leg room then?

My feeling is, and it may differ from others who have greater experience and knowledge than me, unless you go with another manufacturer like BeGreen listed, I feel the 30NC is the better direction to go if you like your house 80 degrees. Michigan gets very cold and long winters. The longer burn times will come in handy and you can always build smaller fires.

Once you get into the middle to end of the winter, longer burn times become important as you get tired of loading every few hours.

That's how I look at it.
 
Well I'm looking at 2 23k btu heaters are heating half my house last week when it was freezing out. And that was only keeping it at 72degrees. So I figure the 30nc will heat just right. Now smaller loads will that really reduce the heat on them warmer days? Is that just reducing the burn times?
 
Well I’m looking at 2 23k btu heaters are heating half my house last week when it was freezing out. And that was only keeping it at 72degrees. So I figure the 30nc will heat just right.

Can you explain further?
 
BeGreen said:
Well I’m looking at 2 23k btu heaters are heating half my house last week when it was freezing out. And that was only keeping it at 72degrees. So I figure the 30nc will heat just right.

Can you explain further?


A floor plan would also help.
 
BeGreen said:
Well I’m looking at 2 23k btu heaters are heating half my house last week when it was freezing out. And that was only keeping it at 72degrees. So I figure the 30nc will heat just right.

Can you explain further?

Currently its taking 2 23k btu kerosene heaters to heat half of my house at 75 in the room 1 is in and about 62 in other rooms on the main floor.
The upstairs is shut off from the house right now. Thats with the current temp outside at 16 degrees. So I figure that the 30nc is 75k heater.
Now given the upstairs is only 375sqft. I figure the 13nc isn't going to heat the whole house on them cold days. Since I was told by an istaller that
the zone we are in minus 15% from the sqft the stove can heat. So the 30nc would be for a 1530-1870sqft. house and the 13nc would be for a 1020-1530sqft house.
I'm just lost and waant the best stove for my house. I'm going with the Englanders because they are both under 900 right now and with my budget thats all I can afford right now.
 
BrowningBAR said:
BeGreen said:
Well I’m looking at 2 23k btu heaters are heating half my house last week when it was freezing out. And that was only keeping it at 72degrees. So I figure the 30nc will heat just right.

Can you explain further?


A floor plan would also help.

Red is where the upstairs is above. Blue is the stove location.
 

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I've got an 30-NC in my house. 1580 sqft, pretty well insulated, and a floor plan that makes it easy to heat.

Can it roast us out if I'm not careful? Hell yes!!

Is it possible to learn to run the stove so that you don't overheat the house? Yes.

Do I worry about days/nights with sub-zero temps with nasty wind? Not in the least. Weather like that gives this thing a change to stretch its legs!

-SF
 
The open area far below the stove is the kitchen. The open area the stoves in is the dining area. The open space far from the stove is the living room.
the room above the stove is a bedroom. the room below the living room is a bedroom. Below that roo next to the kitchen is the bathroom.
 
If the heaters are in good working order and being run wide open, then it seems to be more than kinda drafty. There's a lot of heat being lost for the small area being heated. Under the circumstances the 30 NC may be appropriate. I'd consider getting the rear and side shields to make the stove more convective and to reduce clearances.
 
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