Lots of smoke from stove pipe curing?

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barrettdp

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Dec 20, 2008
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NE Georgia
We had our stove installed for a month with different pieces of stove pipe due to our DVL double walled stuff on back order. We finally got all the pieces in and have been burning with it for over a week now. Every time I start a burn from a cold stove we are getting excessive amounts of smoke visibly coming from the surface of the outer wall. Definitely smells like the paint from the pipe, and not smoke from the wood burning. Even had the smoke alarm come on today as it filled the house and had to open doors up for awhile.

Due to the design of this stove there is no baffle to impinge the flames or reroute it with the damper open. You can see straight up the flue from the doors.

There is now alot of discoloration of the outer pipe wall as well that you may can see from the pics. I will admit that I have been burning pallet wood lately and I do not have a pipe thermometer.

I guess my questions are what is causing this?
How dangerous is it?
How long will this happen?
Is my stove pipe ruined and need to be replaced?

Thanks a bunch
 

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Not familiar with your stove, but it looks as though the pipe may be getting a tad too hot.
Get yourself a couple thermometers (they aren't expensive) to get an idea how hot everything is getting.
Also, looks as though all your stove pipe is installed upside down. Male ends should be pointed down toward the stove.
Recently, I left the stove for a couple minutes, and the smoke alarm went off. New pipe had gotten hotter than normal and did more paint curing.
It's normal, but you need to check temps.
 
That looks like a hotty to me hehehhe. My pipes might have seen 600 surface temp once and they just have a duller black apperance. That lighter color is from some real heat.
 
i hate that smell...had the same thing at the cottage this past fall. even when i fire now, i still get a whiff of it and it seems to just hang there. not as bad as it was originally, but still bad enough to be annoying. in my case, there is only one section of single wall pipe that is left to loose its "new pipe gloss" look (the paint). then the problem should be taken care of.
 
Thanks for the replies. I couldn't imagine what the inside pipe looks like when at start up. I figure maybe the problem is the pine pallet wood I am using recently. It starts fast and burns hot even with doors closed and air control almost completely closed. I also notice with the 8" pipe I seem to be getting exceptionally strong draft.
 
PapaDave said:
Not familiar with your stove, but it looks as though the pipe may be getting a tad too hot.
Get yourself a couple thermometers (they aren't expensive) to get an idea how hot everything is getting.
Also, looks as though all your stove pipe is installed upside down. Male ends should be pointed down toward the stove.
Recently, I left the stove for a couple minutes, and the smoke alarm went off. New pipe had gotten hotter than normal and did more paint curing.
It's normal, but you need to check temps.

Yes I would agree that pipe is mounted upside down. It seems backwords when installing it but if you have it leak (like rain water) anywhere it will run out the sides of the pipe.
 
WOODplay said:
PapaDave said:
Not familiar with your stove, but it looks as though the pipe may be getting a tad too hot.
Get yourself a couple thermometers (they aren't expensive) to get an idea how hot everything is getting.
Also, looks as though all your stove pipe is installed upside down. Male ends should be pointed down toward the stove.
Recently, I left the stove for a couple minutes, and the smoke alarm went off. New pipe had gotten hotter than normal and did more paint curing.
It's normal, but you need to check temps.

Yes I would agree that pipe is mounted upside down. It seems backwords when installing it but if you have it leak (like rain water) anywhere it will run out the sides of the pipe.


The stove flue is oval so the adapter only goes one way, then you attach each piece from there up. They can only connect one way. So it would seem to me that it cannot be installed backwards.
 
barrettdp said:
The stove flue is oval so the adapter only goes one way, then you attach each piece from there up. They can only connect one way. So it would seem to me that it cannot be installed backwards.

Sorry, but your pipe absolutly looks to be installed backwards.

And get a thermometer. The evidence says you are burning way hot.. but only one way to KNOW...
 
barrettdp, I've read through a bunch of installation manuals for a bunch of different stoves while doing research on which one to get, and EVERY one shows that stove pipe should be installed with the male end down toward the stove.
When I bought this place, I didn't know any better, but discovered that my pipe was upside down. It had obvious signs of creosote running down the outside of the pipe. It's now installed the correct direction.
Not trying to bust your chops, just trying to help. Maybe there's a different adapter you could use.
 
barrettdp said:
Due to the design of this stove there is no baffle to impinge the flames or reroute it with the damper open. You can see straight up the flue from the doors.

How much of the time do you run it with the damper open?
 
Jimbob said:
barrettdp said:
Due to the design of this stove there is no baffle to impinge the flames or reroute it with the damper open. You can see straight up the flue from the doors.

How much of the time do you run it with the damper open?

Only on start ups. The manual states that you can run it as an open fireplace with the doors open and a screen in place ONLY if you have an 8" pipe. I thought this would be kinda cool in shoulder seasons. After getting this stove installed there us no way I would ever run it with the doors open due to a very strong draft. It would appear he pipe would over heat long before the stove got up to temp.


As far as whether or not my stove pipe is installed correctly or not I will definitely take yalls word for it and recheck it closely ASAP.
 
PapaDave said:
barrettdp, I've read through a bunch of installation manuals for a bunch of different stoves while doing research on which one to get, and EVERY one shows that stove pipe should be installed with the male end down toward the stove.
When I bought this place, I didn't know any better, but discovered that my pipe was upside down. It had obvious signs of creosote running down the outside of the pipe. It's now installed the correct direction.
Not trying to bust your chops, just trying to help. Maybe there's a different adapter you could use.


Just giving a quick update.

After doing a bit of research I am sure the DVL double walled pipe is installed correctly. It appears the inner wall matches what you said about the male end down, while the outer wall is female down. Every section also had a sticker on it with arrows pointing in the correct install position as well.

Here is a video of he pipe, as you can see the outer wall is opposite of the inner.




Here is a picture of the pipe as well in the correct "up" position. Notice the flared outer pipe female end at the bottom.

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