I would freeze without the stove going with the 40 mph winds we had. Had a real good chimney draft. Even If I had another adequate heat source I would still have it going to be ready for
a power outage.
a power outage.
Snow Storms Stiffle Burning..........
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Soupy dont worry about the chimminey. If your roof caves in you wont need it. the smoke will go out the top of the house. :lol:
Soupy misses his stove while he is in Florida and then lets it go out when it is cold and stormy after he gets back.
BB - Ambles away shaking his head.
BB - Ambles away shaking his head.
Soupy:
I have to admit, I can't stand getting any snow on my splits, either. It may be trivial as others have posted, but I need every last BTU I can get from my wood, and the idea of using those BTUs to evaporate snow would grate on my over-anal personality. If I were you, I would use a wheel barrel and cover the wood from the stack to the house.
I have to admit, I can't stand getting any snow on my splits, either. It may be trivial as others have posted, but I need every last BTU I can get from my wood, and the idea of using those BTUs to evaporate snow would grate on my over-anal personality. If I were you, I would use a wheel barrel and cover the wood from the stack to the house.
Its not the moisture thats ON the wood its the moisture thats IN the wood that affects burning performance. Hell my house is so dry in winter RH 23% the damn wood will be dry by the time it gets to the stove.
Carbon_Liberator said:
Burns in my carpet..............ah, nope............I'm "careful" that way. Burns on my arms........now that's ANOTHER matter!!
The porch is not a bad idea really........but I don't have another tarp available.
This summer, the wife and I are going to put in a woodshed in the back........that'll make a BIG difference for us.
I made a comment about the roof, and my concerns should it be compromised, and the effect that could have on the flue pipe, and someone said "are you serious?!" To which I politely reply, "well, yes, actually." Obviously there are more significant things to think about, like being dislocated as a family, should the roof compromise.
We too, like to burn the wood stove during the storms especially.
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My stove was out of commission due to a broken elbow. Now fixed. When I get home tonight, my woodpile will have been sitting in snow and getting ice-rained on for probably 1.5 weeks.
So yeah, I'm going to go out there, take my big pieces and split them smaller, knock the snow off, use some dry kindling, and have myself a FIRE!
Little moisture never hurt anything. If you wood gained 5 pounds per 5 pounds of actual wood....yeah, that'll dent its effectiveness. But gaining 2 ounces of water? Pfft.
So yeah, I'm going to go out there, take my big pieces and split them smaller, knock the snow off, use some dry kindling, and have myself a FIRE!
Little moisture never hurt anything. If you wood gained 5 pounds per 5 pounds of actual wood....yeah, that'll dent its effectiveness. But gaining 2 ounces of water? Pfft.
I almost never get snowed in/out but I do keep about a weeks worth of wood in the stove room. I hate coming home when it is dark and raining and have to lug wood in the house.
joefrompa said:
Hopefully that elbow didn't break while the stove was going, could have made for a pretty smoky situation
The elbow was broken for probably weeks/months with the stove running. I have another thread on it right now ("lookign for advice...."). There was a ~2" open gap from the elbow going into the liner.
Apparently, having a 6" tube running out of your house and with hot air going up it will create enough suction (in my case) to prevent any sort of smoky situation once started. Nonetheless, I'm sure it wasn't helping all my stove problems.
Anyway....my main point in this thread was simply that I've been burning wood that was sitting under snow/getting rained on/etc. with no time spent drying, and it's been doing fine. It might smolder for the first few minutes in a hot firebox, but then it catches great.
Now if it was sitting on wet ground, that's another story. But off the ground and getting rained on/snowed on? No big deal.
Apparently, having a 6" tube running out of your house and with hot air going up it will create enough suction (in my case) to prevent any sort of smoky situation once started. Nonetheless, I'm sure it wasn't helping all my stove problems.
Anyway....my main point in this thread was simply that I've been burning wood that was sitting under snow/getting rained on/etc. with no time spent drying, and it's been doing fine. It might smolder for the first few minutes in a hot firebox, but then it catches great.
Now if it was sitting on wet ground, that's another story. But off the ground and getting rained on/snowed on? No big deal.
When I was a kid it was my job to lug wood into the house. It was NEVER covered outside. I would just brush the snow off, and sometimes I had to break the pieces apart because they were frozen together. Of course I never had to tend the stove so I don't know how my folks delt with the wood, but it was always warm in the house. FWIW, I do cover my wood in the fall and take great pains to not let it get wet, but it does sometimes. A little melted snow is no big deal.
I am hacked that when the snow started melting I found a leak in my new wood shed roof. Dripping right down on some of that nice, ain't seen no moisture in three years, oak. I will either work around it in the stacks or put it in the carrier by the stove for a couple of days. Five years now of never putting a stick of anything in the stove that has seen water in years and the year I build a shed.... 
Load up that porch with wood when you know a storm's coming. I 'spect that rocker's not getting much use at that time.
If you're worried about the roof, maybe you should get it fixed before something happens.
Not burning wood in a storm is like not eating when you're hungry. I don't want to take the roast out of the freezer because I'm afraid it'll thaw out.
My wood lot and stacks are back in my woods, about 75 yards behind the house. When the forecast calls for temps below 40 I bring up enough wood to the front porch for the duration. I like to be prepared. To me, nothing worse could happen than to be sitting in a cold house thinking about all that nice wood stacked out back.
If you're worried about the roof, maybe you should get it fixed before something happens.
Not burning wood in a storm is like not eating when you're hungry. I don't want to take the roast out of the freezer because I'm afraid it'll thaw out.
My wood lot and stacks are back in my woods, about 75 yards behind the house. When the forecast calls for temps below 40 I bring up enough wood to the front porch for the duration. I like to be prepared. To me, nothing worse could happen than to be sitting in a cold house thinking about all that nice wood stacked out back.
soupy1957 said:
You mean you can't store wood on your COVERED porch because you don't have a tarp to cover the wood???
I now understand your worries about the house roof if even the porch leaks that bad... ;-)
fire_man said:
Yes, it is!! >:-(
What I'm discovering about Soupy is that he is a very deliberative person - that is a trait to be admired.
He's just thinkin through all the angles...
Hey soupy, is your roof made with trusses? Maybe we could help get some info on your roofs snow load holding power if we had some dimensions.
I'm sure there's a chart somewhere online to give that info.
Maybe that would allay some of your concerns about all that snow.
I use a roof rake/snow rake every time it snows. I do it to alleviate the ice dams that pop up, not because of snow load, but we haven't had the kind of snowfall you've had.
Check out this link.
http://www.ehow.com/how_7578737_calculate-snow-load-roof-trusses.html
Here's a quote from this site: http://polk.uwex.edu/2010/08/20/dealing-with-heavy-snow-loads-on-agricultural-buildlings/
"If you are unsure of the snow load on your roof, a ballpark estimate can be made using the formula: Calculated Roof Loading (lb/ft2) = Depth (ft) x Density (lb/ft2 /ft depth). The approximate density (lb/ft2 /ft depth) for light snow is 5-20, packed snow 20-40, packed snow with ice 40-58, and ice 58. So for example, a roof with three feet of light snow has a estimated roof loading of 60 lb/ft2 (3 ft depth X 20 lb/ft2/ft depth density = 60 lb/ft2)."
I'm sure there's a chart somewhere online to give that info.
Maybe that would allay some of your concerns about all that snow.
I use a roof rake/snow rake every time it snows. I do it to alleviate the ice dams that pop up, not because of snow load, but we haven't had the kind of snowfall you've had.
Check out this link.
http://www.ehow.com/how_7578737_calculate-snow-load-roof-trusses.html
Here's a quote from this site: http://polk.uwex.edu/2010/08/20/dealing-with-heavy-snow-loads-on-agricultural-buildlings/
"If you are unsure of the snow load on your roof, a ballpark estimate can be made using the formula: Calculated Roof Loading (lb/ft2) = Depth (ft) x Density (lb/ft2 /ft depth). The approximate density (lb/ft2 /ft depth) for light snow is 5-20, packed snow 20-40, packed snow with ice 40-58, and ice 58. So for example, a roof with three feet of light snow has a estimated roof loading of 60 lb/ft2 (3 ft depth X 20 lb/ft2/ft depth density = 60 lb/ft2)."
I definitely burn when the weather is bad. For one thing, I am at home rather than at work, so I can enjoy the fire.
This is what I call a Bad Habit. Bad Habits are best broken cold turkey. The next storm, which for New England is next Tuesday. You need to get a fire going and let us know how it goes.
Lookin like r next storm is Saturday now and Tuesday. We've gotten some serious snow this year baby. I have 8 foot snow banks on the side of my driveway. Can't even shovel the snow that high n e more.
Whenever it looks like there may be bad winter weather = power outage, I have a fire going well in advance. Like a back-up heating system, you want it running and in good order before the chit hits the fan.
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