eshland wood boiler smokes?

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vipertec

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Nov 8, 2010
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I just installed an old eshland wood/coal boiler to replace a small penn royal stove I was using.The unit is in great shape.The only issue I have is the smoke poors out the door when loading.I called the company which is alternative heating now,they stated to add a smoke hood mounted to stove.My issue is the hood is 14 inches deep and I am a little tight on space for that hood.I was thinking of having a large hood , say 2ft x4 ft on ceiling above with a vent motor or do you think that a draft inducer in the 8 inch flu pipe would work just as good ?I have drilled a 4 inch drier vent outside near stove for a vent to utilize.any info would be appreciated.
 
Hi; I don't think a paddle wheel draft inducer is going to do it( hopefully Bob will chime in here). The large hood sounds like a plan, you will need a strong blower like a radial blade type to really move the air. It pays to do this right the first time otherwise you will most likely need to do it again. Welcome to Hearth, Randy
 
i have a hood fan assembly from a gas range.it has two squirrel cage style blowers,flow is 950 cfm.radial blower would be like a condenser fan?
 
vipertec said:
i have a hood fan assembly from a gas range.it has two squirrel cage style blowers,flow is 950 cfm.radial blower would be like a condenser fan?
The condenser fan is normally blade type & I don't think would do a decent job. I don't think the squirrel cage blower will do it either. I have seen the WG's smoke on loading & it is substantial, you need a good powerfull blower unit. You can see the radial blade blowers at grainger.com or look on Ebay. It is difficult to find the smaller ones, Randy
 
Sounds like if you stop opening the door, you won't have the smoke issue . . .
 
ISeeDeadBTUs said:
Sounds like if you stop opening the door, you won't have the smoke issue . . .

Right on! Open the door when you need to add more fuel.

Forgive me for asking, but are you running the combustion fan when you are loading the wood?
 
Ideally the best time to open the door is when you are down to coals...sometimes we hit that timing just right but it's hard to do in the shoulder season for us as we are burning low coal producing wood. Sometime last year I thought the "smoke shield" was a pain in the rear as it would fall off one of the pins frequently when we were loading....we then did have a smoke problem until we got into the better hard woods. So I fixed the pin retention problem and very little smoke comes out now. Not familiar with the older models but if you do have a draft inducing fan like we do we found that closing the fresh air supply and running fan for a couple minutes before slowly opening the door did help somewhat. But, the real fix was correcting the smoke flap...do you have one? I almost rigged up a smoke hood but we don't really have much of a smoke problem anymore.
 
Presently my stove has no forced air at all.I do have a metal smoke shield in rear of stove blocking the flu outlet and it is intact.I am thinking of building a hood to hang off front of stove about 11 inches deep 26 in wide and approx 9 in tall with a commercial squirrel cage blower.I will install roughly 3 in above door opening.cfm around 450.Not being sure of what will work good,look ok,this can be done the easily.any input?
 
Presently my stove has no forced air at all.I do have a metal smoke shield in rear of stove blocking the flu outlet and it is intact.I am thinking of building a hood to hang off front of stove about 11 inches deep 26 in wide and approx 9 in tall with a commercial squirrel cage blower.I will install roughly 3 in above door opening.cfm around 450.Not being sure of what will work good,look ok,this can be done the easily.any input?
 
You beast is built differently than mine as my smoke shield is in the front where the loading door is...good luck.
 
I lnstalled a smoke hood and that problem is solved,NOW when stove is loaded for the long haul it will puff out the seams of the 8 inch pipe elbows.smell is terrible.Only does it for about 1/2 hour but smell is arund all night.The company said I use too dry and too small wood.Load it in stages.Want to see if any body has input or possible fix for this issue.If i open lower door{ash door}the pulsing stops but stack temp skyrockets?
 
It sounds like a chimney problem. Is the chimney the same size as the 8" flue pipe? Have you checked draft with a gauge? One of the advertisers on Hearth is Exhausto I believe & although an expensive solution should be the end of the troubles, Randy
 
I had some leakage in my pipe connections but that was solved by using high temp silicone and sealing every connection and screw. But, I agree that it sounds like there may be something involved with your chimney to look into.
 
He has the standard wood/coal boiler not a woodgun. It sounds like the draft isn't right.
 
I have a Tarm 502 which had the same issue. I installed a paddle wheel type draft inducer in the flue pipe and that totally eliminated the smoke problem. I turn on the draft inducer then crack open the feed door wait a few seconds then open the door wide for loading. During that short interval, the draft inducer sucks out all of the smoke that accumulated in the top of the fire box and loading is done with no smoke pouring into the room.
 
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