"Really cranks out the heat!"

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Does anyone smell something hot??? :shut:

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I believe that one is the Fisher Gummy Bear.
 
madrone said:
It's also a light source.

LOL!

Nothing like the soft glow of a woodstove. In most cases that glow emits from the window. This is not most cases.
 
A lil white paint, and you'll never notice the difference. ;-)
 
BrotherBart said:
I believe that one is the Fisher Gummy Bear.
Or a Blaze King...
 
Laugh all you want but my neighbor has a stove similar to that only it has 2 doors on the front, and trust me, they don't make a stove today to rivel the output of those old dinosaurs. He can load his with enough wood for a 24hr burn and I'm not talkin what you guys call burn time, I'm talkin fire time. It will raise his 40x60 cement pad shop to 80 degrees. Sure it belchin smoke to beat hell but when you walk in you aren't tryin to get warm next to some little dinky EPA thing. You can feel the heat radiating off it clear across the shop. No I wouldn't want that in my home, but in the right sitting those can be just the right tool for the job.
 
wkpoor said:
Laugh all you want but my neighbor has a stove similar to that only it has 2 doors on the front, and trust me, they don't make a stove today to rivel the output of those old dinosaurs. He can load his with enough wood for a 24hr burn and I'm not talkin what you guys call burn time, I'm talkin fire time. It will raise his 40x60 cement pad shop to 80 degrees. Sure it belchin smoke to beat hell but when you walk in you aren't tryin to get warm next to some little dinky EPA thing. You can feel the heat radiating off it clear across the shop. No I wouldn't want that in my home, but in the right sitting those can be just the right tool for the job.

Bet its nice and white and overfired just like this one too. I'm laughing, and continue to laugh.
If the old stoves were so great, they would not be old stoves now would they.
 
Educate a newbie?

I'm guessing the white indicates overfiring?

Does that mean the metal has changed properties and is definitely "done", or just that the stove has been abused and *may* be done?
 
(Curious) George said:
Educate a newbie?

I'm guessing the white indicates overfiring?

Does that mean the metal has changed properties and is definitely "done", or just that the stove has been abused and *may* be done?

It means that the stove has been metallurgically tortured- the steel plate has probably been reduced in thickness and alloyed with lord-knows-what. Not to mention that the stresses resulting from extreme differential heating have probably sown the seeds of many potential failures.

Or, somebody sure beat the crap out of it; somehow they didn't burn the house down. Or did they? That's not right.
 
(Curious) George said:
Educate a newbie?

I'm guessing the white indicates overfiring? Yes

Does that mean the metal has changed properties and is definitely "done", or just that the stove has been abused and *may* be done?

If the thing is in one pc, it could be fine. But would have to be thoroughly gone over. Typically stove that have been constantly over fired, have broken welds, cracks &/or you can see warpage in the panels.
The white indicates it has been abused and overfired.
 
(Curious) George said:
Educate a newbie?

I'm guessing the white indicates overfiring?

Does that mean the metal has changed properties and is definitely "done", or just that the stove has been abused and *may* be done?

Basically it's the paint burning off it. If the stove isn't cracked or warped, it's still "safe" to use. Those old smoke dragons could take a LOT of overfiring and abuse, with their 3/8" plate steel construction. That one looks like it has had a tough life. If the guy would have spent $10 on stove paint, installed new firebrick, people wouldn't been the wiser.
 
I just replaced the same stove (Fisher Mama Bear) with a Jotul F600. No question, the Fisher quickly put out a lot more heat. It also (for me) had two speeds of operation. Fast where an entire load was burned to coals in a few hours. Slow where it was a creosote machine. I had extreme difficulty having sufficient coals remaining to get a fire going again in the AM. I think the ideal use is for a garage or shop where you want it to quickly heat up the space.

I'm getting ready to sell mine soon if a coworker does not buy it. Mine is in excellent shape and still has the claw feet. If this one is worth $275 I wonder what I can get!
 
Real over firing probably can't be determined from a bad picture IMO. Who knows about the lighting in that pic as to what we are really seeing. What I think is the hardest on the old stoves is where so many were stored after people got tired of them and decided heating costs weren't so bad anymore. Many ended up in damp barns and sheds where they rusted pretty bad after all the paint has been burned off them. What I've seen is those older units didn't get fired hard because they had plenty of heat to begin with. My personal thoughts are overfiring is more common in newer stoves because people like me are trying to get them to do what the older units did and it takes higher temperature when the box is smaller to do the same job. I fire my magnolia in the 700-800 all the time and have never achieved the room temp the old Nashua did running much cooler.
 
JKoz said:
I just replaced the same stove (Fisher Mama Bear) with a Jotul F600. No question, the Fisher quickly put out a lot more heat. It also (for me) had two speeds of operation. Fast where an entire load was burned to coals in a few hours. Slow where it was a creosote machine. I had extreme difficulty having sufficient coals remaining to get a fire going again in the AM. I think the ideal use is for a garage or shop where you want it to quickly heat up the space.

I'm getting ready to sell mine soon if a coworker does not buy it. Mine is in excellent shape and still has the claw feet. If this one is worth $275 I wonder what I can get!
I just recently sold 2 Nashaus in very good condition for 250.00 ea. I think old steel stoves have a value in that range. Anyone asking more is just fishing.
 
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