Enviro EF2/EF3/Meridian/Windsor / Vistaflame VF100 Hi Ash Burn pot liner available

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Anybody with Enviro EF2/EF3/Meridian/Windsor or Vistaflame VF100 (and there may be others) have problems with clinkers or buildup in the burn pot?

I was having some buildup with Okies (yes, Okies) after days of burning and decided to give their high ash burn pot a try. So far, it's proven to be very effective in keeping the buildup of crud out of the pot. I'm still experimenting with airflow as this liner definitely has more and larger holes in it, but so far I think i'd recommend it, even with high-quality pellets. Just may need to reduce combustion airflow a bit.

I'm thinking I could easily strech the time between cleanings to at least a week or so.

Enviro part 50-587 available both online and through dealers. I got mine online for about $47.

Let me know if anybody's already tried this (surely I can't be the first!).
 
Keep us posted. My Windsor constantly needs attention with cleaning out the pot. My old liner is showing signs of wear, so this new liner might be a good option.

What Enviro do you have and do you like it?
 
Yes, I have problems with clinker build up in my Enviro Meridian Free Standing stove. I use quality, premium pellets (Pro Pellets and Uncle Jed's) and get clinker build up that needs to be dealt with several times a week. I would be interested in a new burn pot liner. Does the same liner really work with all of those stoves you listed?
 
I have a bud that has an EF3 and he will be interested in this thread. His stove has been a bit picky on pellet brands so maybe this will help?

Thanks for sharing! :)

The EF5/EVOLUTION also has a high ash liner if anyone needs the info. # is 50-961
 
What are you guys thoughts with the EF3 running the comb fan on high all the time and having the user adjust the incoming air? I kind of think this is what makes the Napoleon NPI40 / NPS40 and the Enviro EF2/3 so picky on pellet choice.
Are there more holes in the new burn pot? That would increase the intensity.
 
OP here. I have the Vistaflame VF100 also made by Sherwood Industries just like Enviro stoves (and yes, I love it). According to the box from Enviro, it's marked EF2/EF3/Win/Mer.

To answer some questions:

According to the Windsor owner's manual, yes, this will work. (Double check for your stove model before purchasing).

According to the Meridian owner's manual, yes, this will work. (Double check for your stove model before purchasing).

The pot has more holes and all are the same size.

Here's a link to a picture (not my site--I have no affiliation, though this is the site I ordered from):

http://woodheatstoves.com/index.php?main_page=popup_image&pID=9985
 
That's what I thought. No pellets fall through, though I have seen tiny bits of pellet in the burn pot after a couple of days. The diameter of the holes is the same as the diameter of the larger holes towards the outer edges of the standard burn pot liner.
 
turbotech said:
What are you guys thoughts with the EF3 running the comb fan on high all the time and having the user adjust the incoming air? I kind of think this is what makes the Napoleon NPI40 / NPS40 and the Enviro EF2/3 so picky on pellet choice.
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I converted an EF3 to the newer digital controller for a friend. We set the stove up just like the newer stoves with a magnehelic gauge. But the stove still was picky and would get lumps or clumps in the burnpot. So he will likely try the high ash burnpot on his shoulder pellets. We upgraded for the thermnostat feature the most, But it did give him some other nice features as well. We really were not expecting it to do much more than help purge(blowers go to high on shutdown) out the ash at shutdown. This does remove some of the crud before the next lighting when the stat calls for heat again.

Because they can adjust the damper it is pretty much the same as the digital control varing the speeds of the blower. You get about the same velocity either way. As long as they know how to watch the flame and adjust properly.
 
turbotech said:
Those holes look pretty big. What is the diameter? Do a lot of pellets fall through?
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The picture link liner looks like exactly like my original liner, for size and shape, on the Windsor except, that the holes are all the same size. These larger holes appear to be the same diameter as the larger holes on my current liner. I will also occasionally get bits of pellet bits in the bottom of the burnpot even with the old style liner.
 
I replaced my original EF-2 liner with a new one a few years back.

The original one was warped. The new one is Identical to my old one. I kept the original one.

I can see a date night with a drill in my near future........

Hey Corkman....this might help your Meridain

---Nailer---
 
nailer for a tip on stainless drilling use a center drill with the diameter you want. Hi speed steel bits will dull quickly in stainless. Cobalt may also stand up a bit longer.
 
hi all.i've been in contact with terry at russo products who are the main distribution center in this area and he has been awsome.i stopped by to meet him yesterday and got to see a windsor in opperation and the flame activity is so different than mine.i am in the process of getting voltages together for him on both blowers and will be in contact with him again tomorrow.i did get to see the high ash liner while i was there and that got me somewhat exited.we're focusing on the blowers first then the board.i gave him voltages last week and he thought they were high so we are doing it again to make sure.
this is what i got for voltages tonight.

voltage at the outlet is reading 127v with the stove unpluged.

after starting the stove up i get a reading of 124v

combustion blower heat setting 1=93 v convection blower heat setting 1=92v
2=101v 2=99v
3=108v 3=105v
4=114v 4=111v
5=125v 5=127v
 
Tried the new high ash burn pot liner...little if any difference.
Still too much ash ...think it's a combination of the pellets and another cleaning...
 
One thing I've noticed with the high ash liner is that it seems to change the airflow characteristics. As a result the glass seems to get dirtier faster on the sides but that's a tradeoff I'm willing to live with.
 
Thanks Jay,

I don't think my Burn Pot Liner is stainless. It seems too soft and surface corrodes easily.
I would guess mild steel.

Thanks for the tip.

---Nailer---
 
Well,
Not sure what happened but the stove is working perfectly now!!
Was it the new burn pot? Didn't seem to make a bit of difference at first.
I adjusted the air to allow more supply, but I'm happy!!
Wish I knew what happened!!..
()))
 
Any Updates on this post?

After a about 4-5 days I have lots of ash in my burn pot as well.

I'd like to know if the new liner made a difference after a year?
Also what are your Mag readings for Low and High?

I have the Meridian FPI.

Thanks,
btanoue
 
btanoue said:
Any Updates on this post?

I'd like to know if the new liner made a difference after a year?

Also what are your Mag readings for Low and High?
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I've burned exclusively with the high-ash liner this year. It's still letting me go at least a few days before I've gotta pull the burn pot and liner and get the crud out. I could probably go longer, but I don't mind cleaning it every few days. I've used NEWPs and Okies this year and the NEWPs are definitely higher ash which requires more cleaning.

The liner has held up well, but I will say I have noticed that the metal surface is more rough than it used to be. I'm thinking that this rough surface allows crud to build up more easily. I pull the liner once a week and give it a good scraping with a metal chisel to remove and really hard carbon buildup along the sides.

I set my draft on level 4 to 0.14-0.15. I have no idea what the draft is on 1 or 5.
 
Hi,

I notice that the build up happens more often when the as pan is more full.

I do scrape it out in the evening before bed after it cools, but I tend to get more build up towards the end of the week as opposed to the begginning after a cleaning. In other words, when the ash pan is low, I get less ash build up and as the ash pan fills, I tend to get more.

Do you notice as well?

btanoue
 
btanoue said:
Hi,

I notice that the build up happens more often when the as pan is more full.

I do scrape it out in the evening before bed after it cools, but I tend to get more build up towards the end of the week as opposed to the begginning after a cleaning. In other words, when the ash pan is low, I get less ash build up and as the ash pan fills, I tend to get more.

Do you notice as well?

btanoue
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windsor

I had a theory that my ash pan fullness might be contributing to burnpot buildup, but hadn't connected the two definitively.
I will be emptying the pan each time I shut down to clean the pot and a vac.
Thanks for the post.
 
Dose anybody have an update on these high ash burn pots ??? Any improvements over the origanal ?? I am thinking of ordering one for my ef3
 
The high ash liners are good. I usually recommend them even if you are burning premium pellets.
 
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