breckwell p2000, lazy flame

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well I have noticed lately that the flame on my pellet insert has become very lazy, i have the damper open all the way & still very lazy flame, resulting in a lot of black soot on the rear wall & top of the stove.
I had in issue a few months ago(some will remember) with the glass getting dirty very fast, i was told to adjust the air wash, so aded some washers to the bottom but it was too much & the flame was real lazy, then I removed those washers & added smaller ones, the flame got better but not as intense as it once was. I finally removed al lthe washers & the flame is still weak,
I assume this is becaue air is getting in other areas other then through the dampner, correct?

on an unrelated topic, the other day I tried clean energy pellets & the fire box got all caked up with ash, the pellets were filling over the top of it & into the ash pan, on fire, I have since went back to the stove chow but the fire box was so full of crusty soot I had to shut down the stove prematurely (sunday is stove cleaning day) & clean the stove firebox, ash pan & window.

so any ideas on the lazy flame? could the gasket not be making a seal all of a sudden? any way to test ? could it be a bad blower not pulling enough air any more?
 
How long and how many bags of pellets since the last COMPLETE cleaning of stove and exhaust pipe? Included in this should be ash traps, removal & cleaning of blowers, and hopefully a leaf-blower treatment after everything else is done.

Your symptoms sound like dirty stove syndrome, IMO.
 
So many possibilities here.
1) check behind access panels on back fire wall ash may have built up there.
2) make sure air intake is not plugged with dust.
3) has the exhaust pipe been cleaned?
4) is the door adjusted properly to allow for a good seal on door gasket. Check with a dollar bill in multiple location around the door.
5) are the widows sealed against gaskets, you can check with a credit card from the outside with the stove off and cooled down. Just don't force the card.
6) is the door warped? My P2000 FS had a bad door from the factory replaced under warranty.
 
clean your vent
clean the access panels behind the inside firewall, entered through the firebox
check your door seal. The P-2000 has a very unstable door and does not like to seal very well.
If you get a chance compare that door to the QuadraFire CB1200 and notice the difference.

Eric
 
the access panels are all cleaned out, the intake is open on the back of theunit so breathing is not the problem, at least intake, butthe exhaust is a problem, the chimney is lined & I can not get to the roof to clean it out in this winter hell. I have run 4 tons through the stove this winter & theexhaust pipe was nicely cleaned out before firing it. I did not have this probelm last year & ran over 6 tons through it.
I wil check the door seal & report back.
thanks to all for the ideas.
ps, I wish I could do the leaf blower trick but that would be a problem being as it is a fireplace insert.
 
My Breckwell insert had a similar problem earlier this season resulted from a batch of bad pellets that were contaminated with sandpaper grit & glue. One of the pellet maker's new suppliers delivered from a shop that dumped everything together. The maker did not hesitate to refund my money & was very apologetic.

My exhaust was 1/2 filled & the burn box holes were mostly closed due to the residue. Had hard clinkers each day of burning. Sucked out the exhaust with a shop vac & then put on blow to make sure the chimney pipe was still good & open (noise pitch barely changed when inserted to blow).
 
Get a flue brush that just fits into that liner on the back of your insert and brush the mess out.

Yes this will make a mess.

Make certain you get all the way up to and including the termination cap.
 
Hello

If the ash pan is not closed tightly or if the ash pan gasket is worn, that would cause a lazy flame also!
 
Breckwell insert have a problem in their design. They use a clockwise rotating combustion motor in the right hand side. This makes the exhaust takeoff spin downward toward the bottom of the stove body. Because it is so low, there is not room for a clean out T...there fore the liner usually connects directly to the snout and all of the ash that accumilates in the liner falls right back down into the motor. Clean it out and performance should be restored.
 
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