Tree Ids, 2 of them please

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mywaynow

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Pic one is a downed tree, about 20 inches in diameter. Fell due to insects in the trunk base. Looked like oak grain in the exposed wood. Thinkin White Oak?

Pic two is standing tree, and a big diameter one. Splits at the base and joined trunk is 34 diameter. No idea on that one at all. Small round bunds on the ends of the limbs, dark redish brown color.
 

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I am thinking Oak and maybe Hickory ?
 
Left one is mostlikely oak, but not white oak.
Right one is definitely shagbark hickory, one of the very best in the NE. (Hope your chain is razor-sharp.)
 
Tough to tell from bark alone. Second one could be a variety of maple. Any leave on the ground?
 
I am drawing a blank on the first one. If it is an oak, maybe it is Black Oak. The patterns looks OK for Black Oak but the color seems too light. Maybe the color is light because the tree is down or maybe from the camera. The bark doesn't look like White Oak. The bark reminds me most of a big Black Gum.

The second seems like Shagbark Hickory. The shaggy bark could be Shagbark or perhaps a Silver or Sugar Maple, but your description of large buds sounds like hickory, and then the shaggy bark indicates a Shagbark hickory (there are several other varieties of hickory, but for firewood they are all about the same - great)
 
unknowingLEE said:
Ash and red or silver maple.
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+1 thinking silver
 
I'm pretty sure the first one is ash also. I was going to say hickory for the second but after comparing the photo to a piece of silver maple I am voting silver maple too.
 
The first one doesn't look like the White Ash we have around here. Ours doesn't have those horizontal breaks in the ridges...
 
The left one has been down for a couple years. The wood that was exposed when it fell is now very gray. Overall the tree grew vertically with little limb growth until about 40 feet. There is a fair amount of Poplar in the area, which usually grows that way, but the piece of wood I tore off the stump semed more like oak grain. Do Ash trees fall to bugs damage? There is a picture of the base where I tore off the wood piece.

The right tree is on a ridge where there are a few Shag Bark Hickories, but the bark is not the same. It has shorter patches that don't flair off the tree as much, and the Shags don't have that bud growing on them. I found a small limb at the base of this tree ans snapped it to see a dark center of about 50% of the diameter. It smelled somewhat faintly like fish?? Or at least brook water. Second pic is of the growth, close up. Love these camera phones.
 

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The second looks like Maple.
 
I think the tree in the first picture is Ash


The twig that you posted a picture of is from a BIRCH tree. So that tree in your second picture in your first post must be a big old yellow birch.
 
I'll say we have some oak around here with bark like in Pic 1 and it doesn't look quite like Ash I've seen (as Woody Stover says). No idea what species of Oak though.
Pic 2 I dunno btwn Shagbark or maple. Are the other shagbarks in the area all smaller than this one? That could explain the differences in bark...
 
Was that twig in the picture actually attached to the second tree (the hickory/silver maple tree?)
 
No the twig was on the ground, and not near the big tree. I am trying to remember what made me feel that the twig was from the same tree or species, but can't recall. I agree the twig is a birch, but don't think the second pic is of a birch tree. I think it is either maple or hickory. The bark didn't have much odor, but don't know if that helps.
 
Woody Stover said:
The first one doesn't look like the White Ash we have around here. Ours doesn't have those horizontal breaks in the ridges...
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My thoughts exactly. Certain oaks have bark like that. Plus- it would be hard to mistake the wood grain or white ash and oak to be sure!

Second one looks like silver maple to me, more than shagbark

white ash bark:
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mywaynow said:
No the twig was on the ground, and not near the big tree. I am trying to remember what made me feel that the twig was from the same tree or species, but can't recall. I agree the twig is a birch, but don't think the second pic is of a birch tree. I think it is either maple or hickory. The bark didn't have much odor, but don't know if that helps.
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ahhh, ok, I thought you were implying that the twig was from that second tree.

well, this can be easily cleared up. go take a picture of a twig from the second tree that people are split between maple and hickory. try to get a picture if possible of the end of a branch that shows several twigs coming off.

maples have opposite branching, so that should be easy to see from the end of a branch.
 
Adios Pantalones said:
Woody Stover said:
The first one doesn't look like the White Ash we have around here. Ours doesn't have those horizontal breaks in the ridges...
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My thoughts exactly. Certain oaks have bark like that. Plus- it would be hard to mistake the wood grain or white ash and oak to be sure!

Second one looks like silver maple to me, more than shagbark

white ash bark:
fraame_bark02_web400gf.jpg
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That does not look like the White Ash we have here, but the picture from theOP does. Yours looks more like our Green Ash that White.
 
oldspark said:
Adios Pantalones said:
Woody Stover said:
The first one doesn't look like the White Ash we have around here. Ours doesn't have those horizontal breaks in the ridges...
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My thoughts exactly. Certain oaks have bark like that. Plus- it would be hard to mistake the wood grain or white ash and oak to be sure!

Second one looks like silver maple to me, more than shagbark

white ash bark:
fraame_bark02_web400gf.jpg
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That does not look like the White Ash we have here, but the picture from theOP does. Yours looks more like our Green Ash that White.
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I think White Ash may differ somewhat depending where it is. I have seen pics of White Ash that have the alligator bark like the OP pic is. However at least in Southeast PA, White Ash looks like this pic....not alligator like, but very ridged especially on an older tree. My parents house has some HUGE white Ash trees and the bark looks just like this.....
 
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