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the_dude

Feeling the Heat
Feb 26, 2008
300
Southern WI
I posted on the gas stove forum just a few days ago, looking for alternative heating for my finished basement. Upon further research, I'm leaning heavily towards a pellet stove instead. Based on the info below, I would greatly appreciate stove suggestions. Looks of the stove are important to me, and I'm interested in stoves with a more traditional wood burning stove look - i.e. Quadrafire Castile, etc. I'm also interested in any issues I may encounter installing one in a basement as far as running pipe for exhaust and OAK. I really don't know much of anything about pellet stoves. My interest stems from my calculation that in my area I will get approx. 43K BTU's/$ of propane vs. 82K BTU's/$ of pellets.

Stats: I bought a new spec house about 4 years ago. It is 26x40 with a full basement and loft. It had a floor to ceiling stonework on the first floor with a cheap wood/gas fireplace. I replaced that fireplace with a Kozy Heat Z42, which does and excellent job of heating the first floor and loft. The basement however, gets quite cool. Our basement is mostly finished, and we are looking at utilizing that finished area more = family room + toy room for the lad. I’m considering adding a heat source down there that will be able to quickly and efficiently raise the temp down there from upper 50’s/low 60’s to upper 60’s/low 70’s when we want to use that space (again, about 1000 square feet). I’m now thinking about a pellet stove (I don’t see taking wood down there nor maintaining 2 wood fires). I know nothing about pellet stoves, so I was hoping for some thoughts and recommendations on the above questions. Thanks!
 
Pellets at 225 per ton is about half the cost of lp at $3 per gallon. ABOUT. Thats without geeking out about it. Enough of a savings to at least consider it.
 
Wood pellets are like 2-3x cheaper to operate than gas right now, and they are a renewable fuel. Coal is actually the cheapest per BTU, but that's a whole different kettle of fish. You'll also get a 500.00 tax credit if you buy a pellet furnace this year. Pellet stoves are incredibly efficient and clean burning compared to traditional wood or coal. Direct venting allows a fair amount of flexibility in placement, but you'll have to read up on the Owners manual prior to purchasing one to make sure it will go where you want it to go. I think most manf. highly recommend an air intake pipe for the most efficient burn. Cant' help ya on looks. My furnace won't be wining any beauty contests, but she'll do all the heat I need, and then some.
 
Pellet stoves win on the basis of cost-of-fuel, efficiency, and self-sustaining heating (as opposed to wood stoves). But the best route of all is to find a used one, if possible. Though I can't imagine why someone would sell one, unless it's too large, too small, or they're too old to deal with one.
 
Lots of used pellet stoves on the market. People sell them because:
1. they bought a very low end one and after deciding they like to burn pellets, decided to move on up to the east side.
2. they bought a stove from a place that led them to believe that you just dump any ole pellets in there and empty the ash pan. Aftet a year of learning different, they decide to switch to an easier fuel
3. Folks that bought pellet stoves will sell them if they get natural gas service to their home
4. This is the one to be careful of. Some pellet stoves can be lemons, doesnt matter if its the made in china ones, the Home depot special, or a $5,000 model I sell out of my showroom. Sometimes your buying someone elses problem.
 
Typically you would have to vent it out the front or back of you house through the band board.(preferably the back) the joist usually run front to back and usually there is not enough room to get the pipe out the ends of the house. Harmans are good reliable units. Enviro seems to be pretty decent. The most important thing to find is a good dealer!! Then pick the stove that fits your bill from what they sell. When you need help you want somebody that is going to be there.
 
Venting from the basement can force one to get creative for sure.

Be very careful to follow good venting practices and all the local rules governing such things.

Used stoves pop up all the time.

There are myriad reasons why people sell a stove.

"Came with the house"
"Dirty, too hard to fool with"
"Dont want the bother"
"Dont like the mess" ???????/
"Dont have time"
"Fire is scarry"
"Was my folk's stove, selling the place and the new people dont want it"
"Bought a new one"

The list is nearly endless.

A used pellet stove that is in good shape can be a great investment.

I bought two used stoves last winter and that was a best buy ever. One came with the floor "Hearth pad" and pipe for $200 and the other one was $200 by itself.

Both just needed a tad bit of cleaning was all.

If you are leaning more towards a new stove with warranty, checking with a dealer may land you a floor demo model for a great price.

Being able to install the stove yourself is a real plus too.
Hiring an installer can add a substantial amount to the overall $$$ figure

If you decide to buy used, be sure that the make and model still has parts available.

There are many older stoves that have become total parts orphans.

Many times these old critters can be refitted with other parts, as several of the older stove makers used "OFF THE SHELF PARTS" rather than proprietary stuff.

One of the members here "Wood Heat Stoves" can usually help with parts and such and can also fix ya up with owners and parts manuals.

Lots of choices.

One thing to consider, many pellet stoves are/were bought to use as an esthetic thing rather than a full time heat source and in so, get little use over time.

I have seen 20 year old stoves that were almost like new inside and out.


Good luck

Snowy
 
All the good reasons for selling a pellet stove don't include the love of an actual fire, with its direct heat and beautiful flame. Central heat can't provide either of those, but the trade-off is the daily maintenance.
 
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