Napoleon 1900 vs Quadra-Fire 5700 vs Jotul F500 vs ????

Begreen,
Dont want to side track this .............but wanting to know more on the 5700 problems ?
are you speaking if the stove that melted the fire brick retainers ?
Havn't had any problems with my 5700
thanks
rn

My 5700 has been flawless in performance. Other than the rope gasket being replaced after 3 years which I kinda expected and a few firebrick from my poker. The amount of heat it puts out has been more than satisfying and having a stove that takes 24" wood that only requires a 6" chimney was beneficial on chimney cost. I couldn't find another brand that took that large of wood and didn't bump up to an 8" chimney.

Check the reviews for 1900 reviews. I'm sure there will be some there.

525,
This 5700 is working well for me. My first stove was a CD cat stove and you had to watch what you put in it. Starter paper mostly but this is not so particular
about it's diet. Third season with this stove and have been able to get ahead on the wood so what i'm burning is pretty dry. Makes a difference with the glass.
Hoping it also makes a difference with the cleaning. 14 ft total vertical chimney and an o/s air setup. Last stove was a pain to lite w/o the o/s air but it also was
in the basement. Last stove was on legs and always dusty underneath. Went with the pedistal this time and that solved that problem. Loving the large fire box
but wouldnt have minded if it were even bigger. This setup has never smoked me out unlike the last.
Hope this helps
rn

BG,
Now you've got me wondering............
Just pulled the ash out of it and stuffed it back full of wood.
Are you talking about the outside panels ? I'm not remembering any interior panels from
when I put it together. Only a few tabs that extend down here and there to hold the firebrick
in place. Thats what i'm remembering but I will be having a good look when I can.
Doesn't quite make sense that the tabs would burn out while the stove pipe remained ?
Spent some time welding and it takes a bit of heat to melt that steel.
But you do have me wondering now ?
Better safe than sorry
rn

hummm tough call.

#1 We'd have to get a stove with legs after keeping our stove tools under them for years. #2 would for us would be the stove that opened from left to right...mainly cause my wife always wanted that.

I have no hands om knowledge of the other stoves but my 5700 has met all of my expectations thus far without issues. Long burn times, great heat etc.. I would recommend it. It does on occasion make us open windows but no one will have that problem burning fuel oil

bg,
Washing machine failure only offered a brief look at the stove last nite.
Doesn't look like the sides are removable, at least not in the front as it is welded on front top.
Screws in the rear that may be there to mount the back panel to the sides.
Interior fire brick tabs appear to be fully intact. Didn't see anything going on with the walls above the fire brick
and don't expect anything behind .......
I'll look closer when I get things under control.
rn

I have had a Napoleon for 4 years now. I still love it and have put about 20 cords through it so far. Be sure to get the fan. It makes a big difference. I can usually keep my 3200 sq ft house 45 degrees warmer than the outside temp. I would buy another one, and wish they made one with even a bigger fire box as I have lots of wood on my property.

I would recommend you at least look at the Pacific Energy Summit. They were priced under the Jotul F6 when I was looking. The all steel fire box means no seems to re-cement after a few years. Lifetime warranty as well. Good luck

Congratulations on the new stove. It is very nice looking. I'm in the same boat of installing a new stove and the temps outside getting warmer. I guess that's the way it goes. Enjoy

525fury said:

Well I went with the Napoleon 1900P and couldn't be happier.
I have put quite a bit of Red Oak thru it and it burns great. Temps are easy to control with the air control rod and it really heats up my 3100 sq ft house.
Only problem is, that it has warmed up outside since I put it in Install a wood stove and.... poof...... winter is gone. I am sure it will cool back down. Had a nice fire last night and over night. Plenty of coals to crank it back up in the morning if I need to.

I attached a few pictures of the stove before flue install, and one of the very first break-in fire. I will attach a few more pictures later of the final install, with the carpet laid back in position also. Thanks for all your help, as I think I made the right decisioin.

PS: Wonderful buying experience with my dealer. Got it thru Obadiah's, and Woody is so great to talk to on the phone. He answered all my questions and more! I would HIGHLY recommend them!

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Yea, Woody is great. Being as he was one of the first Napoleon 1900 owners and with a critical eye evaluated the heck outa the thing up there in fridgid Montana, and then to become a dealer, was good enough for me. He's always got the latest info from the factory which helped me save a lot of money and keep my 1900 running perfectly.

Nice. I love that stove.

For $50 they sell a cooking trivit which you can sit your humidifier on without scrathing the brass on the one you have. But its not as pretty.

Thanks guys for the great feedback. Always glad to help folks anyway we can. Had our 1900 now for 12 yrs! It still burns like the day I bought it. Our house is only 1200 sq ft so its overkill, but I love only having to stoke er up twice a day, even when it's 50 below! The best part is it does not cook me out of the living room like the Quad did before it. The back bedroom's are warmer and the loft is livable. Convection heat the best way for us in this situation.
I've added a couple of pictures of a install that I did in a all masonry Alcove. I love doing rock work! Anyhow this is one type of installation where a convection stove really shines. If this was a radiant type of stove, most of the heat would be absorbed into the masonry where it would essentially be trapped. With a convection type stove, that air flow is actually enhanced and distributed into the rest of the home through the natural convections properties in every enclosed structure. Just take a smoke match and light it and follow the smoke and it is very easy to see where the convection currents are. They generally go one direction near the ceiling, and the other direction near the floor.
Now this job started as a rather large inefficient fireplace that is on a outside wall between the house and attached garage. The problem with this type of installation is the masonry acts like a big heat sink sucking the heat out of the home through the masonry. This is why whenever I design a masonry type heating appliance, I will encourage the client to install it as close to the center of the structure as possible. This takes maximum advantage of that heat sink property and then that masonry structure acts as a battery, absorbing the heat into itself, then radiating it gradually into the structure over time.
In this case we rebuilt the fireplace into a Alcove and then installed a Napoleon 1900 in it. It has worked very well, the customer was thrilled and they could now use wood to heat the entire 2000 sq ft home. We did this installation over 10 yrs ago and everything is still working great.
PLEASE NOTE*** I have saved a few folks from burning their homes down trying to do this kind of installation using wood framing and cultured stone or brick. As a professional firefighter, I have seen first hand what happens when you do that. Trust me, it is NOT something you would ever want to experience firsthand. So if you are planning something like this, it must be properly designed and engineered. If you are unsure of what your doing, don't just hire any contractor. The two homes we saved this year, were both being built by professional contractors. These guys were simply not experienced in this area, they did not understand the dynamics of heat transfer and how it can affect a wooden structure over time. Consult with a engineer, or hire a mason to build your Alcove who has experience with fireplaces. If your short on money, or a do it yourselfer, call your local fire dept. many members there are also contractors and will gladly help make sure you don't burn your home down. Lastly, there is great info right here on Hearth.com under K-Values. All the formulas are posted so you will know what to do.
I also have done a series of You Tubes on this subject, just go there and type in Obadiah's Woodstoves and you'll find our channel. We will do anything we can to help you be safe and warm.
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