Replaced Hearthstone Mansfield with Pacific Energy Summit Classic

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MF1529

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Jan 25, 2011
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Vermont
Hi Everyone,

I recently switched my Mansfield for a PE Summit Classic and I wanted to report back. The only complaint I have is that I didn't do it sooner. From day one I was disappointed with the soapstone performance. I thought I could learn to love it, but that wasn't the case. I heat primarily with wood so I figured I might as well be happy and swap out the Mansfield. I have to say the last straw for me was when I saw two stones on my $3000 mansfield were cracked. Superficial...yes, but I expect more for the money. I know now this is normal for soapstone, and I should have researched that prior to purchasing.

I wanted a workhorse stove that I could burn 24/7 with limited maintenance and up keep. After quite a bit of research I settled on the Summit. With the all steel welded firebox the only up keep I can see in the furture is fire bricks and a door gasket. I hope I never have to buy another stove. I have been able to burn this stove at 500-600 effortlessly with the primary on low. I could rarely get the mansfield to 600 even burning wide open. I now have the knock you out on the couch heat I've been looking for.

The coal bed is similar to the mansfield, but the summit seems to burn down easier when I crank up the primary. 10 hours after a fill up the stove is in the 250 to 300 range. That jumps right up to 450 20 minutes after its refueled. I attached a few pics of the stove. The first one I was trying to catch the secondaires in action, but the pic came out a little blurly.

Thanks to everyone that replied to my posts when I was going back and forth about the Mansfield.
 

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Nice stove. I looked at a Spectrum in red and gold trim - nice stove and I agree that above all else it looked like a workhorse heating machine. Blower is an option too.

Bill
 
I was going to go with a soapstone stove myself. They are beautiful after all. I wanted something I can cook on if I have too when the power goes out. My thinking was pretty much the same as yours. I wanted just basic maintenance with the door gaskets and the fire bricks. There are reports of burn tubes needing replacement in the Lopi stove as well. I'm 45 and was hoping this stove would last me a lifetime as well.

I just lit my stove for the first time in a week or so. I should have it to 600 pretty quick. I can't imagine a stove that would not do that. I'm really glad I got a steel stove as well. I think you'll really like in 8 degrew weather.
 
If I was going to bet, and having burned both of those stoves, I would have thought you were going to miss the Mansfield and go back. Go figure. Glad your happy with the switch. The PE is a great stove, I just wouldnt think it would stand up to the Mansfield.
 
I wish we could have traded but too far away, glad you like the summit, I hope I can get mine squared away, it just does not have the top end to get the house warm quickly, takes all day.
I dont think I have fully broke its cherry yet.
 
Congratulations on the new stove MF1529. I hope it serves you well.


The cracked stone on the Hearthstone does not surprise me as I've heard of a lot of them cracking. That you had a problem getting to 600 is surprising though and the immediate thought is that you stated, "I could rarely get the mansfield to 600 even burning wide open." That immediately sends bad signals because lots of folks seem to think if they burn with the draft full open they should get more heat. However, that is not the case here. It works with a car; if you want more power or speed, open it up. But do that with any stove and most of your heat goes straight up the chimney. But that is past so just please keep this in mind for any future problems you or others might have with getting heat from the stove.

btw, our soapstone (Woodstock) stove will take a long, long time to get up to 250 degrees (that's when we engage the cat) when starting with a cold stove if we burn with the draft full open. But, get a fire started and then dial the draft down, maybe to 50% open and the stove heats up quite fast. When we engage the cat, we then turn it down to about 25% open and then go further down yet once we get some coal bed started. It works.
 
If you are getting those temps with the sensor on the trivit you have one HOT stove!
 
oldspark said:
If you are getting those temps with the sensor on the trivit you have one HOT stove!

That's what I was thinking.
 
Isn't the Summit more of a convection heater? They do look like great stoves, but I thought you'd need to run a fan with one to get good heat.
 
MF1529,

I am glad you like your new stove. TBH I am surprised you prefer that one over the Mansfield, but to each their own. I know I don't want as you said "knock you off the couch heat", but again to each their own. I am sure you will have no problem finding someone to take the Manny off you hands.

Shawn
 
BrotherBart said:
oldspark said:
If you are getting those temps with the sensor on the trivit you have one HOT stove!

That's what I was thinking.

Yes, be careful. The stove top is likely at least a couple hundred degrees hotter. You may be in overfire territory without knowing it. Pop the trivet and put the thermometer on the stove top and let us know what she reads then. If it's under 750 you are ok, but if it is higher, turn on the blower.
 
What did you do with the Mansfield ?
 
Rich L said:
What did you do with the Mansfield ?

Was waiting for this post! Cheers!
 
Hi everone thanks for all the replies. I didn't think that the temp on the trivet would be all that different than the surface temp, but it's a very good point. I am burning the colas (coals) down now. When I fire it back up I'll get a reading from the surface and the trivet. I can't imagine I'm overfiring it. I'm burning with the primary mostly closed. I did instal a pipe damper so I would have a little more control if needed.

As far as my experience with the Mansfield it doesn't seem to be typical. I have the stove for sale on CL in VT. There has been a lot of interest in the last few days and I actually have to snap a few more pics for a guy. I'm asking $1400 and I think thats a pretty good price. I've seen them here for $1600 to $2000 used around here. What does everyone else think (non potential purchasers of course).
 
MF1529 said:
Hi everone thanks for all the replies. I didn't think that the temp on the trivet would be all that different than the surface temp, but it's a very good point. I am burning the colas down now. When I fire it back up I'll get a reading from the surface and the trivet. I can't imagine I'm overfiring it. I'm burning with the primary mostly closed. I did instal a pipe damper so I would have a little more control if needed. As far as my experience with the Mansfield it doesn't seem to be typical. I have the stove for sale on CL in VT. There has been a lot of interest in the last few days and I actually have to snap a few more pics for a guy. I'm asking $1400 and I think thats a pretty good price. I've seen them here for $1600 to $2000 used around here. What does everyone else think (non potential purchasers of course).

I'm getting ready to burn down some brewskis - you can keep your colas :cheese: . Seriously - how old is the stove? How many cracked stones and how bad? Cheers!
 
MF: Did you change out your chimney/liner? I thought you said in a previous post you had your 6" Mansfield hooked up to a 8" flue. I thought the PE required a 6" flue also...... ???
 
NH_ I would be having a brewski if I didn't have to work tonight. The plate attached to the stove is marked manufactured in DEC 2006. The curse of the Mansfield continues for me. I went out to clean it up and take some more pics and I notice 2 more cracked stones for a total of 4. 3 of the 4 are cracked where the treaded rod runs through the cast iron angle on the corners. Clearly this is where the stones are weakest. It gets better though I also dropped the ash grate on the garage floor and broke that in half. So $1400 is gone.

Shari- I have the same set up I used for the Mansfield hooked up for the Summit. An 8 inch to a 6 inch reducer. I really didn't have to do much to swap the 2.
 
If the cracked stones are surface cracks I would jump on that at 1400. Of course that is me, and I am in PA sooooo.... I guess I will pass.

Shawn
 
3 of the 4 cracked stone are on the corners where the threaded rod goes through the cast iron angle on the sides the portion of those stones aren't even in the firebox. This must have happened when I moved it out. Shawneyboy I wish you were closer with cash in hand :). If anyone is interested I'll let it go for $900. Any less and I'll keep it for a rebuild
 
MF1529 said:
3 of the 4 cracked stone are on the corners where the threaded rod goes through the cast iron angle on the sides the portion of those stones aren't even in the firebox. This must have happened when I moved it out. Shawneyboy I wish you were closer with cash in hand :). If anyone is interested I'll let it go for $900. Any less and I'll keep it for a rebuild







900 ehhhh? Maybe worth a trip to Vermont!
 
Mike T said:
Sent a PM for pics....I live in VT!! ;-)







Aw man! Lol good luck!
 
Mike T said:
Sent a PM for pics....I live in VT!! ;-)

Good luck Mike. 900 is a good deal !!!

Shawn
 
It's good to hear that you're happy--I think it just wasn't the stove for you. Sounds like you're going to make someone else happy, too.

As steel stoves go, I think the PE stoves are handsome ones; pictures really don't do them justice. Enjoy!
 
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