England Pellet Stove 25 Pvdc Settings

Welcome to the forum.

We need more info before anyone can help you out.

Is this a new stove, or used? Please describe the exhaust system (types of bends, number, lengths, etc). Is the OAK hooked-up?

An OAK is the Outside Air Kit that came with the stove, and is required to be installed on all Englander stoves.

How often has the stove been COMPLETELY cleaned?

i own the same stove, have you pulled both blowers out and given them a good cleaning? have you checked for leaks? do the dollar test on the door, have you searched for issues on this forum, have you tried to contact Englander direct. this are very good stoves with the best support you will ever get, so don't give up.

I'm still not clear on the cleaning part, as you didn't answer the earlier questions completely.

1. Have you REMOVED both blowers from the stove, cleaned them, and re-installed (with a new gasket on the combustion blower)?

2. Was the OAK installed on the stove when it was first installed? If so, has it been inspected for any blockage (snow, mouse nest, wasp/bees nest, leaves, etc, etc)?

3. Have you removed the impingment plate at the back of the firebox and cleaned that area with a brush and vacuum?

4. Have you removed and cleaned the wear plate under the burn pot (all the holes are open & clear), and made sure that the round tube below and behind the wear plate is clear of ash or obstructions?

In addition, see post #7 in this thread:

www.hearth.com/econtent/index.php/forums/viewthread/72190/

Could it be the vent kit? She doesn't have a multi fuel stove but is using a multi fuel vent kit. ???

strangemainer said:

Could it be the vent kit? She doesn't have a multi fuel stove but is using a multi fuel vent kit. ???

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Nope, works just fine with pellets only.

The dollar bill test: With the stove off and cold.

Get a strip of paper about the size of a dollar bill.

Pick two places on each side of the door insert the paper strip between the door and the stove so that closing the door will put the paper strip between the gasket and the stove door opening.

Try removing the paper strip, it should present some resistance. This resistance should be the same at all 8 locations you test.

If the paper strip doesn't present resistance in even a single location, you have to ether adjust the door so that it does or replace the door gasket.

The chimney should only smoke at start up.

Your smoke smell is likely an unsealed joint in your venting but it can also be from the area around the vent where it passes through the thimble, on the outside of the house that area should have sealant around the vent pipe so there is no place for the exhaust to come back into the house.

If you take a strong light and in a darkened room, start the stove up and back light along the venting inside the house you should be able to see even a small leak. Then you can use some silicone sealant or high temperature metal tape to seal the leak.

If you can post a picture of the exhaust system (venting) it will allow us to find possible issues.

3x what smokey says also dont give up this great forum will help you the best they can

I also have a funny feeling you really need to take that stove outside, and hit it with a compressed air stream, bottle brushes, and follow up with a leaf blower in vacuum mode.

The combustion blower likely also needs to come off and that will require a new gasket.

Once the stove is completely cleaned, you need to verify that it is running in the correct burn mode, the controller has 4 different burn modes, your stove is likely supposed to be running in mode C.

Then the 3 Lower buttons need to be reset to factory specifications.

Can you tell us what pellets you have been (attempting to) burning?

Hopefully Mike Holton will drop by, he heads up the tech group at England.

The reason why nothing is burning is because at this point the stove is plugged. The reason the stove likely got plugged is because settings like 5 5 1 and 6 4 1 would not provide enough air, especially with dense pellets (Comfy Cozy is one such dense pellet IIRC) when the stove was in low burn modes. Once the bad burns start the ash (and other things) level just goes up. This will also get "helped" along by other otherwise minor issues.

The best way to get that stove completely cleaned is for it to be taken where ash flying all over the place will not be a problem and hitting it with compressed air, brushes, and a leaf blower in vacuum mode. There are plenty of places for the ash and stuff to get into.

Once things are totally cleaned the stove should be reset to factory defaults and placed back in service.

After that a regular cleaning schedule involving a leaf blower and a bit of brushing will likely keep it burning well.

The reason everyone is telling you to clean the stove is that a dirty stove can lead to every single thing you are reporting as a problem.

Very few problems with a stove are other than normal maintenance issues.

Now that we know your door gasket is fine, would you please provide the vent pictures and answer imacman's question about weather or not you have the required OAK installed on that stove.

The other major gasket that must be checked is the hopper gasket.

Then we can move on to things like the wear plate and go looking for any possible burn pot air bypasses.

mfenwayh said:

We shut it down around 7ish last night and was woked up around 4am by the carbon monoxide alarm going off, and the stove hadn't been running since 7pm . this is becoming a dangerous situation.......

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If the stove had been shut off for 9 hrs., then there is NO WAY the stove caused the CO alarm to go off, IMO.

You better check your other heating system, or try a new CO alarm....they are only good for about 5 years and then have to be replaced.

BTW, still waiting for the answers to my questions from yesterday. Not giving the forum members the correct information will severely limit what we can help you with here.