Now I am really Confused....

Buy the T5 now! Thats a great price, as I have been looking at them and getting prices quite a bit higher than that.

I think one of the moderators here has a T5. It seems to me that he is very happy with it. Maybe he will offer some info. if you give it time.

I agree w/ certified- that's a great price! It should heat 2k square feet fine. The Summit is actually one size larger & rated for 3k square feet, so it might be too big for the area you're trying to heat.

I purchased a PE Summit Classic a month ago and I paid $2200. The classic has panels on the side and top for a convection effect. The PE Summit was around $1900. These prices were with a 10% off sale. I would tell the dealer that quoted you $3500 to stuff it and never return there. I replaced a Hearthstone Mansfield with the Summit. I have been thrilled with it. It is bullet proof and throws out tons of heat. As I'm writing this it's 7 degrees out and my 1700 sqft house is hanging right at 72 with no effort at all. I don't have a prolblem with too much heat. I'd rather too much than not enough. Good luck

The total for our Summit was $1452, after taxes. At ~ $3500, they are really trying to rip you off, unless they were including the stovepipe, chimney and installation!
Our Summit is black, with black door, pedestal, and ash system.

wow that summet looks almost exactly like a englander 30nch, are they made by the same people and just rebranded?

sblattert said:

Will the T5 be able to heat my 2100sq pretty well? Just want to make sure that I don't under do it. Is the burn time good on these units? I guess I don't do know much about them at all. Thanks for all the help everyone, I would have never thought that choosing the right wood stove would be such a long process. But it is a big decision and one I want to get right. If I don't my wife will never let me make another major decision again

Steve

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No, based on your description of a "drafty house in Michigan." And spousal pressure. And most females that I know like the home warmer vs colder. And if you are in the upper Peninsula of MI, definately NO!

Regarding the pricing, are you certain that the quoted $3700 is for the stove alone? Or is that delivered, installed etc. And visa versa, it sounds like the price for the T5 maybe without install etc. ie you bring your pickup truck and take it home yourself.

Make sure you are comparing apples to apples, and don't make the mistake of saving a few $$ now then realize that you were going to try to heat your home with the furnace off -- with a stove way undersized. You will be disappointed and in hot water with the wife if that is your expectation.

Cozy fire in the living room, the T5 would be great. Whole drafty house in Michigan, never.

A description of the construction and layout of the house would be helpful in answering this question, and where the stove would be located in it. You mentioned that the house is fairly drafty. What do you have for insulation in floor, walls, and roof? What are your windows like?

Here's where I'm going with that: you could put in a big stove, and keep it cranking with a lot of wood, and keep the place warm-ish. Or you could put in a smaller stove, and use the price difference between them to beef up insulation, seal cracks, maybe replace some leaky windows. This is going to save you in wood (either money or labor) every year, and allow you to run your stove at a more moderate temp, and have cozier corners and a happier family. And your wife will recognize that she has married one smart fella.

What's the microclimate like (the site where the house is located)? Tucked under a ridgetop and shielded from winds, southern exposure with lots of solar gain? Also, will you be using any secondary heat sources?

I'm heating a 2000sf house in Alaska with nothing but a parlor stove (Hearthstone Heritage) and it keeps the place wonderfully cozy. (Didn't plan it that way--got it for backup heat, and the boiler failed this winter--but it's working.)

It's a big decision--not just the money for the stove, but wanting to make sure that it's going to work out as planned. (There are plenty of examples on this site of what can go wrong.) So you're wise to be asking these questions and taking the time to make the right choice. It will be worth it in the end

sblattert said:

The shop did have a napoleon 1400 with nickol legs and door that was very sharpe for $1700 that I would consider if some one would tell me that it could heat my house. I need an all night burn, and I am just not sure that the 1400 will keep up with my heating needs. I think it will do better than my current stove, which is an old VC Resolute III. But if I am going to spend that money, it better be for the long haul, and able to get the job done.

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We have a Napoleon 1400. It even has the nickel legs and door. It can heat our 2000 sf house no problem, but..........

We are in Tennessee, not Michigan. 6 above is the coldest we have personally ever seen here.

Our house in new, tight, with a huge amount of thermal mass. We don't need overnight burns and have never done one.

Based on what I know about Michigan and the description of your house, I would say the 1400 probably wouldn't make it.

That was quick! I edited to add more questions, and see you've answered the first ones already. So it's a one-story house?

I am thinking, honestly, spend money on getting your drafty house condition taken care of. Insulation of the envelope is way more important to comfort than stove size in my opinion. Once your stove no longer has to be sized to heat the front yard too, you won't need as much stove, but more importantly, you won't need as much wood.. which BTW, you should already be stacking..

The T5 certainly is a nice looking stove, but if you have to ask if it will work ok why not go with something you know will work like the Summit or T6. My home is a log home, and I would consider it drafty. I have been through 3 stoves in 5 years and I am finally pleased with the big Summit, and I hope it will last forever. Having spent significant cash on a VC and Hearthstone prior I can say from experience it is very frustrating to not get the expected heat from a new stove. Here in northern Vermont we've seen temps as low as -26 f this winter and they were frequently in single digits. The Summit was adequately sized for the single temps. I didn't have it for the -26 night. When the temps reach the 20 and 30's I fill the stove less and burn the coals down longer. From what I see on the weather channel the U.P. is similar in temps. IMO it is better to have some extra stove for the cold periods.

Does anyone know what the standards are for rating a stove to a homes sqft. To clarify the Summit is rated to heat a 2000- 3000 sqft home with a max output of 97,000 btu's, but what outside temp are these ratings based on. I'm sure there are also insulation standards and other specifications involved but there must be an external(outdoor) temp standard involved in the ratings. I ask because if the stoves are rated to heat a residence when the outside temps are 32 f then it would be necessary to have a larger stove if temps are frequently below the rated temp in the owners location.

Just one more thing for you to consider. There is a 2011 tax credit from the feds pertaining to efficient stoves. It is 10% back up to $300. From what I read the money is just tacked onto your return during tax filing. Good luck with the car. I hope the repairs aren't anywhere near $750. It's always something...........