Neighbor hating on my scrounge

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44 elite said:
Since this post it's has gotten quite interesting.

The Vp of our HOA addressed the issue and told him that he had asked he to help as he knew I had the ability and that I had been given permission.

This was not good enough for this friendly neighbor so he called the county forester and I was summoned to meet with the 2 of them to show the him what I have done. I was like o man here we go this guy it going to be a total tree hugger.

I first met my neighbor
He wasgoing out of his way to be insulting to me.
I had introduced my self with my propper name and was overly polite to him calling him by his name or sir. He then started to referring to me as kid. 1 st I let it go, 2nd time I informed him of my name, 3rd time I told him I had no problem beating up a 65 year old man. He went silent. I asked are we understood Sir he says yes then walks up the forester.

I show him what I have cut and the neat piles I had left behind. I even showed him tree's I had left behind that showed signs of Animal habitat.

He then turned to me and said your doing exceptional work here and the community should be giving me a pat on the back.
He then asked me what saw I was using
Next thing he was at my house looking over my ms 361 and having a beer.
He offered me a job
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Outstanding end . . . and you got the proverbial gold star and smiley face to boot. Nicely done . . . and nicely played.
 
Standing dead are woodpecker homes and feeding ground. Sometimes when they leave other birds nest in them. Laying dead put the nutrients back in the soil. They are home to salamanders, newts, frogs, insects and many other critters I cannot think of right now...

What you may want to do is prepare a management using some accepted forestry practices and then get it approved by the board or whomever...
 
kettensäge said:
I cut all standing dead but 1 or 2 and most of what is flat on the ground, unless it is starting to rot. Those make better termite and ant nests than my house, and I never cut anything live unless it is leaning towards the house.

I have noticed a remarkable differnce in my small 1.2 acre lot with this approach. Former owner never cut anything on the lot. Now there is a lot less brush and fuel for a fire. You can actually pick out the property line by the appearance of the lot. Never noticed any difference in wildlife, if anything there is more, or I can see it better without all the clutter.

As Caddyuser said, the fire risk may be enough to pursuade your neighbors to allow you to continue your efforts in making the community a safer place.

I would continue to cut until the HOA or whomever gave you permission tells you to stop. Many people have too much time on their hands. Neighbors sending e mails doesn't mean you can't cut wood anymore and the governing body most likely understands the benefit from what you are doing already. They may be the ones that will tell the neighbors to butt out.
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That brush or undergrowth is usually what is going to be a tree when the others die off. The understory does have a purpose...
 
44 elite said:
Since this post it's has gotten quite interesting.

The Vp of our HOA addressed the issue and told him that he had asked he to help as he knew I had the ability and that I had been given permission.

This was not good enough for this friendly neighbor so he called the county forester and I was summoned to meet with the 2 of them to show the him what I have done. I was like o man here we go this guy it going to be a total tree hugger.

I first met my neighbor
He wasgoing out of his way to be insulting to me.
I had introduced my self with my propper name and was overly polite to him calling him by his name or sir. He then started to referring to me as kid. 1 st I let it go, 2nd time I informed him of my name, 3rd time I told him I had no problem beating up a 65 year old man. He went silent. I asked are we understood Sir he says yes then walks up the forester.

I show him what I have cut and the neat piles I had left behind. I even showed him tree's I had left behind that showed signs of Animal habitat.

He then turned to me and said your doing exceptional work here and the community should be giving me a pat on the back.
He then asked me what saw I was using
Next thing he was at my house looking over my ms 361 and having a beer.
He offered me a job
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My hat is off to you, Sir. Methinks this has turned out very well indeed. I hope said neighbor stays quiet now but if not.....
 
So did you take the job?! Congrats on a peaceful and positive ending, maybe the neighbor got some edukashun too from the forester.
 
I was very happy with the way things have ended. I don't believe that I will ever see eye to eye with this neighbor but this is the first time I have met him in the 3 years of living and 1 year of building my house. It not going to keep me up at night.

No i did not take the job as 50 k a year is the most he could offer. I did tell him I would be more than willing to work on the weekends or after work and he had said he will call when they have the need for a hired Saw.
He did say that he has quite a few side jobs that he could use my help with.

All's well that ends well I am happy that I did not have to put a hurtin to my neighbor as my wife would have not been happy.
 
44 elite said:
Since this post it's has gotten quite interesting.

The Vp of our HOA addressed the issue and told him that he had asked he to help as he knew I had the ability and that I had been given permission.

This was not good enough for this friendly neighbor so he called the county forester and I was summoned to meet with the 2 of them to show the him what I have done. I was like o man here we go this guy it going to be a total tree hugger.

I first met my neighbor
He wasgoing out of his way to be insulting to me.
I had introduced my self with my propper name and was overly polite to him calling him by his name or sir. He then started to referring to me as kid. 1 st I let it go, 2nd time I informed him of my name, 3rd time I told him I had no problem beating up a 65 year old man. He went silent. I asked are we understood Sir he says yes then walks up the forester.

I show him what I have cut and the neat piles I had left behind. I even showed him tree's I had left behind that showed signs of Animal habitat.

He then turned to me and said your doing exceptional work here and the community should be giving me a pat on the back.
He then asked me what saw I was using
Next thing he was at my house looking over my ms 361 and having a beer.
He offered me a job
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Well played 44! But yeah, did you take the job;)...nm, just saw your post.
 
44 elite said:
Since this post it's has gotten quite interesting.

The Vp of our HOA addressed the issue and told him that he had asked he to help as he knew I had the ability and that I had been given permission.

This was not good enough for this friendly neighbor so he called the county forester and I was summoned to meet with the 2 of them to show the him what I have done. I was like o man here we go this guy it going to be a total tree hugger.

I first met my neighbor
He wasgoing out of his way to be insulting to me.
I had introduced my self with my propper name and was overly polite to him calling him by his name or sir. He then started to referring to me as kid. 1 st I let it go, 2nd time I informed him of my name, 3rd time I told him I had no problem beating up a 65 year old man. He went silent. I asked are we understood Sir he says yes then walks up the forester.

I show him what I have cut and the neat piles I had left behind. I even showed him tree's I had left behind that showed signs of Animal habitat.

He then turned to me and said your doing exceptional work here and the community should be giving me a pat on the back.
He then asked me what saw I was using
Next thing he was at my house looking over my ms 361 and having a beer.
He offered me a job
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Man, you rock! I was gonna add another dimension to this but it is evidently not needed now: petroleum is spiking which is pouring money into the pockets of mahmoud ahmadinejad, hugo chavez and moammar quadaffi. Burning American wood takes money out of their pockets. I would ask him whose side is he on?
 
Well played, 44 elite!

Cyber beer for you -->
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I forgot to add....this could be a situation where Liquid Ass is needed....yes, it does exist.
 
This thread would be complete if PICS of the woodland were included :)

For all I know the entire story is MADE UP ;-P
 
ansehnlich1 said:
This thread would be complete if PICS of the woodland were included :)

For all I know the entire story is MADE UP ;-P
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Aw, c'mon! It's on the Internet, so it must be true.



On second thought, it might be quality firewood pr0n.
 
CTwoodburner said:
kettensäge said:
I cut all standing dead but 1 or 2 and most of what is flat on the ground, unless it is starting to rot. Those make better termite and ant nests than my house, and I never cut anything live unless it is leaning towards the house.

I have noticed a remarkable differnce in my small 1.2 acre lot with this approach. Former owner never cut anything on the lot. Now there is a lot less brush and fuel for a fire. You can actually pick out the property line by the appearance of the lot. Never noticed any difference in wildlife, if anything there is more, or I can see it better without all the clutter.

As Caddyuser said, the fire risk may be enough to pursuade your neighbors to allow you to continue your efforts in making the community a safer place.

I would continue to cut until the HOA or whomever gave you permission tells you to stop. Many people have too much time on their hands. Neighbors sending e mails doesn't mean you can't cut wood anymore and the governing body most likely understands the benefit from what you are doing already. They may be the ones that will tell the neighbors to butt out.
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That brush or undergrowth is usually what is going to be a tree when the others die off. The understory does have a purpose...
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Yep, it's growing into trees as we speak.
 
Interesting thread, as we back onto community woodland.
I tend to remove dry looking deadwood when easy to get to, leaving the wet looking stuff to rot for the insects etc.
I have also stuck quite a few acorns and nuts in as I want plenty of trees for the future.
Oldest tree of mine out there now is about 25 years old. Plenty of hazel to coppice too.
It's almost like a secret woodland management project...... well, maybe nor so secret anymore!!!!!!!
 
woodchip said:
Interesting thread, as we back onto community woodland.
I tend to remove dry looking deadwood when easy to get to, leaving the wet looking stuff to rot for the insects etc.
I have also stuck quite a few acorns and nuts in as I want plenty of trees for the future.
Oldest tree of mine out there now is about 25 years old. Plenty of hazel to coppice too.
It's almost like a secret woodland management project...... well, maybe nor so secret anymore!!!!!!!
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I've planted more than a fair share of acorns in the past by taking acorns on my property where I live and popping them into the ground on the family land which has very few oak trees . . . even though I know at the age of 40 I'll never see these trees reach maturity . . . at least a future generation may get some use out of the wood.
 
firefighterjake said:
woodchip said:
Interesting thread, as we back onto community woodland.
I tend to remove dry looking deadwood when easy to get to, leaving the wet looking stuff to rot for the insects etc.
I have also stuck quite a few acorns and nuts in as I want plenty of trees for the future.
Oldest tree of mine out there now is about 25 years old. Plenty of hazel to coppice too.
It's almost like a secret woodland management project...... well, maybe nor so secret anymore!!!!!!!
Click to expand...

I've planted more than a fair share of acorns in the past by taking acorns on my property where I live and popping them into the ground on the family land which has very few oak trees . . . even though I know at the age of 40 I'll never see these trees reach maturity . . . at least a future generation may get some use out of the wood.
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I hear ya! Around here the paper companies have decimated LARGE expanses of hardwood forests and replaced them with nice and neat rows of hybrid, fast-growing pine trees. Back as a teenager I used to roam the clear-cuts looking for arrowheads...it was amazing how much wood was wasted. ;( Me and a friend stated back then that "Our kids would grow up thinking that all pine trees grow in rows".<groan> Anyhow, I like to stick an acorn here and there along the way...I've got a couple of grandkids that just might enjoy them one day.

Oh a side note... Trees that we plant now *do* get to be big trees one day. Years ago (I was probably 7-8yo) I dug up a magnolia tree growing down behind our house in the woods. I asked my mother where to plant it she said "Oh, down there away from the house". Well, years later, after additions to the house the tree had to come down as it was hanging over her bedroom (sad day but was the right thing to do)....from a sapling to a tree that was over 36" in probably 30 years. We *can* make a difference...plant those acorns (or saplings)!!!!

Ed
 
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