anyone have a phase 2 owb ?

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bruce

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Nov 20, 2005
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long pond pa
does anyone own a phase 2 burner?
i am ready to join the market but i feel like i want nothing to do with a phase 2
i was planning on buying a heatmaster 5000e i like the idea of not splitting down as small and burning pine and sometimes green wood

what do you think?
 
This is what i think, maybe research getting into a gasification type boiler, not outdoor, been there laying under a tarp knocking wood loose at night in january to feed it, i was using a central boiler 6048 and it loves wood,only 35% effiency,have now gone with a gasifier garn 1500 gallons closer to 80 to 85% eff.I know alot of the phase2 boilers do gasify and cannot speak for that brand,have heard of numerous problems with central boilers 2300 leakers,2400 may be better.
I didn't research enough the first time and got something that i didn't like,be sure to weigh all your options and keep reading here there is so much to learn,efficiency is king instead of large wet logs still green in the center, one that uses smaller wood and dry will burn less, but thats just my thinking i guess
 
I know somebody who has a 2300, no leaks. They burn it pretty much flat out, sounds like efficiency is c50%.
 
What I think bad idear I don't know about a heatmaster 500 but I do know about a Mahoning and it will become your master needs a lot of wood for little heat. Mine lasted 6 years running 24-7
it paid for itself but a lot of work and a lot of wood. Like the dodgetech said out in the nite feeding this monster but when I got it it was all I knew of and went with it. Now I'm going for a gasser a
P & M less wood less work ect. the only thing I'm told dry wood did I say dry wood this seems to be the way to go I hope soooo what I think you should do is check them out and see what fit's you best
just what I think

Good luck checking them out took me 2 to 3 Mo. to make up my mind.
 
the only rush i have is pa starting June 1 must be phase 2 or greater

i have a sale price i can get on a heatmaster 5000e until march 20
heatmaster does make a gassifier called the G 200

very similar to central boilers e-classic gasers

the reason for avoiding is not to burn trash wood but lower grades of woood when it is plenty full
 
What do you mean by lower grade wood?
 
Pine is the wood of choice around here, works fine in gassifyers.

I saw a Garn being fed freshly felled pine, they were complaining it was using a lot more wood than they expected, duh moment but it still worked.

Hemlock I do not know, punky I guess is subjective.
 
If you plan on getting a non phase 2 WB...hurry up. New regulations coming into affect in Pa. Manufacturers will no longer be able to manufacture anything less than phase 2. However since I live in Jefferson twp(north pocono) I know how things work in this area. You may be able to pick up and install a bargain non phase 2 boiler. Depending how remote you are no one will know the difference. I do know Jefferson Twp is talking new regulations on outdoor wood boilers for this year due to complaints from neighbors of outdoor wood boilers.
I'm not sweating it because first of all I'm grandfathered in and second of all my Econoburn is an "Inside Wood boiler" which I chose to install in an outbuilding. If they want to regulate mine they will have to regulate every wood burner in the township. Trust me ...the people setting the regulations all have wood burners in their homes. Food for thought.
 
Bruce,
There is nothing wrong with any kind of wood you burn in a gassifier. The key is dryer wood supplies more and quicker heat. This is my first season burning. The last 2 weeks I have been splitting wood I dropped in November and burning it. Although the boiler has been keeping the temps up, I have noticed the burn cycle is "A LOT" longer than when the wood was dry.
I like 8 hours of consecutive sleep so I do save the seasoned Red/White oak for the over night burn. Loaded with dry Oak I'm good for 8-9 hours on single digit nights.
 
Hi Bruce Im not far from you and I have a portage & main phase 2 outdoor boiler. It works very good and I burn 8 inch rounds (seasoned) I load two times a day even in single digit temps.
 
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