High Altitude Ski Hut Heat

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AndrewMiller

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Mar 14, 2011
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Fraser CO
I am the project manager for a remote ski cabin being built by a 501 c3 tax exempt organization, the Grand Huts Association (grandhuts.org). The 1800 square foot foam (SIP) insulated cabin will be located a mile by trail above Berthoud Pass, Colorado at 11,300 feet elevation. We will use passive solar for much of our heat source, but need to back up the heat and provide a way to melt snow (for water) and cook. There is no road to the site, so pounds and volume are critical as well for fuel. There is little to no firewood in the basin, so we have ruled out wood stoves. Pellets will be our main back up heat source, and I hope they can be our cooking heat source as well (propane is traditionally used, but again is hard and expensive to haul plus has environmental consequences). Minimizing electric requirements would be helpful in sizing of our PV system.

Having a stove with a side-arm boiler would give us a way to move heat through the building, also hope to have the “ambiance†of a fire seen through glass. We need to supply heat to a utility area beneath the cabin, critical to maintain the health of two toilet composters and our battery bank.

The only pellet cookstove I can find is a camp model produced by Clarrypelletstove.com, but it looks to be mainly suitable for tents. I don’t know if anyone makes a back-boiler which has a hot top.

Inquiries to Pelheat.com have gone unanswered, despite paying their $17 fee and a web site promise of consultation help. Thanks for any information found! Andy Miller
 
I just don't think that pellets are going to work out for you here. I think that the electrical requirements are going to be your limiting factor.

If it were me, I'd be putting in propane wall unit and a propane cook top. Carrying a couple of 20lb or 30lb tanks back in will be easier than trying to manage the pellets and the electric you will need.

good luck, but I think you may be asking for more than pellets may be able to do for you.

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http://grandhuts.org/broomehut.html

This one?

Pellets are out, unless you are going to put in a large PV array. Sounds like you are not.

Not sure about Propane, the tank is going to be heavy. Kerosene? You need something with the biggest bang for the lb weight.

Solar should do the DHW, might be a practical issue in making sure the guests fill the catchment system with enough snow.
 
propane seems to be the easiest to transport. That seems to be the factor that is most important
 
Have you looked into a gasifier to produce your own gas ? they run on wood chips/pellets or any biomass can usually be used depending on which type you get they can also be used to produce electricity via a generator and heat water aswell
check out http://victorygasworks.ning.com/ also his youtube channel has some useful information http://www.youtube.com/user/VictoryGasworks?blend=1&ob=5 these units are especially designed for "off the grid living"
 
They are well above the tree line.
 
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