So, I've had my eyes on the T6 for quite a while now and took my wife in to check it out. While there are many features of this stove I love, the most important one for me is that it's more convective in nature. It seems the general consensus on here is that a convective stove works best for a floor plan that's chopped up, which mine is. Also, I think I read somewhere on here that the surface temps on the T6 aren't as high as the Summit. Generally speaking, would most agree that the surface temps on the T6 would be considerably less than the Summit? My wife really took a liking to the Summit Classic but she's afraid it will "melt her face off". She prefers the porcelain look of this stove over the more utilitarian look of the T6, plus she thinks the T6 is "too big" for the room (17x13). I've got about 1800 sq ft, 900 main floor and 900 second floor that I will be heating. 9' ceilings, moderate insulation and original windows in my 100+ year old Victorian. Would the T5 do the job as a primary heat source? Would the Summit Classic melt my wife's face off? That's not what I'm going for. Thanks in advance.
Summit's Face Melting Qualities
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Greetings. The Summit and the T6 are the same stove, but with different jackets. Both put out the same amount of heat. The difference being that the cast iron jacket on the T6 acts more like a buffer and heat sink than the porcelain coated steel jacket on the Summit.
Neither stove should bake you out of the room unless the room is closed off from the rest of the house. Tell us a bit more about the first floor. What are the adjacent rooms to the 17 x 13 room and how are they connected to this stove room? Is the staircase located in or nearby?
Neither stove should bake you out of the room unless the room is closed off from the rest of the house. Tell us a bit more about the first floor. What are the adjacent rooms to the 17 x 13 room and how are they connected to this stove room? Is the staircase located in or nearby?
madison
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I cannot compare the two, but I did remove the side panels for a couple days on our T6 just to goof around, and there was a quite a difference in the heat "quality", i do not think total heat output was different. But the normal comfortable chair positions in the stove room felt warmer with the panels off. The chairs are normally ~ 8-10 ft away.
You could actually place chairs quite close to the t6 on either side without "melting", that is, with the side panels in place.
Not sure if that helps or not.
You could actually place chairs quite close to the t6 on either side without "melting", that is, with the side panels in place.
Not sure if that helps or not.
We have the T6 in a roughly 16 x 15 living room, that has large openings into the dining area and entry hallway with the staircase. It sits about 4 ft away from an overstuffed chair. No problem with sunburn so far. Just remember, you don't have to fill it full of wood. We usually don't until the temps get below freezing.
BG...I'm more concerned about surface temps of the Summit. I understand that the T6 will get hot, how much hotter would the Summit get? I'm considering my wife's face and any of my kids' curious hands. Is it fair to assume the Summit would be a 911 call while the T6 would just be a leisurely trip to the ER in the mini van?
Ain't no metallurgist but it would seem that the outer shells of the T6 and the Summit ought to be at the same temp most of the time in a steady burn and radiate the same amount of heat. And convect the same for that matter.
Best way to find out is to look at the required clearances. Those were set during testing based on the radiant heat generated firing the crap out of'em.
Best way to find out is to look at the required clearances. Those were set during testing based on the radiant heat generated firing the crap out of'em.
sundawg said:
Park your hands on any burning wood stove at operating temp and you are going to get seriously burned.
I'm not sure about the Summit, but you can touch the side of the T6 when it's burning and it'll be hot, but not flesh burning hot. I'll do an IR reading the next time it is up to temperature. The trivet top is hotter, but not so hot that you can boil water on it. The door however gets very hot. Don't touch.
To answer the question about the Summit and whether it is too large we need answers to the previously asked questions about the stove room.
To answer the question about the Summit and whether it is too large we need answers to the previously asked questions about the stove room.
Will follow up with a layout. BG, I think I've read somewhere on here the same thing you said about surface temps of the T6. Can anybody confirm the ability to "slap" the side of the Summit Classic without too severe of a burn?
Not going to slap it when its cranking, these are wood stoves made to heat an area so they will be very hot to the touch.sundawg said:
Side should be relatively safe. If your stove is hot, could you move the magnetic thermometer to the side and get a reading?
So, even though clearances for the T6 and Summit are identical, that doesn't necessarily mean the stove top temps will be the same, as BB reckoned may be the case?
The stove top temps will be identical or pretty darn close to it. The reference was to clearances which are for the sides and rear.
Thanks BG. I'm not trying to split hairs here, but are you contending that the sides and rear temps would be the same on both too and should be relatively safe on both?
SKIN052
Minister of Fire
I have used the term "Melt my face off" when loading the Summit and going near the glass to take a close look during a strong burn. I think either would be good for you. Choose the one the wife likes, Happy wife, happy life.
HotDogMan said:
I said the top temps would be the same. We have measured that many times over. As for the rest, I'm not sure what's meant by "relatively safe". Should I have sourpuss aunt edna check out the stove sides? The stoves have closer clearances for a reason. They don't radiate strongly from the sides and back. That doesn't mean they are cool to the touch.
It's too warm out to measure our stove now, maybe later. Let's wait for some Summit owners to give some actual readings.
Jimbob
Minister of Fire
sundawg said:
I can. Even when I did this.....
https://www.hearth.com/econtent/index.php/forums/viewthread/70922/P0/
......I could briefly touch the side of the Summit. The sides were ~ 180°F , the back was ~ 140°F. It is important to note that there is a LOT of heat radiating through the glass, an Old Dutch potato chip bag promptly shrinks when held on a stick, 6 inches in front of glass.
You aint gonna touch mine, the sides get way too hot to touch when its running hot and I can not even get my top over 600 or so. I can take some readings in the morning.Jimbob said:
Jimbob
Minister of Fire
I'm curious to see those readings. My readings were taken in the centre of each side, and in the centre of the back. As I moved up the side with the IR thermo, the temp reading went up.
With the fan running and stove top at about 350 this is what I get on the sides for temp.
Rear upper is about 180
Middle upper is about 235
Front upper is about 295
Bottom of sides is about 125 or so.
Hope this helps
If the stove was really cranking this temps would be noticeably higher so its going to hurt if you "slap" the stove.
Rear upper is about 180
Middle upper is about 235
Front upper is about 295
Bottom of sides is about 125 or so.
Hope this helps
If the stove was really cranking this temps would be noticeably higher so its going to hurt if you "slap" the stove.
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