New owner with some quick questions

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ckage83

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Feb 1, 2011
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New Hampshire
Hey all, I've been reading here for quite some time and I finally lit the fire. My wife and I moved into our new house earlier this month and promptly burned through a whole tank of oil. I've been wanting a pellet stove for a long time so I pulled the trigger on a Harman P61A.

The Harman dealer couldnt do the install for nearly 3 weeks after delivery so I called my buddy who has done a couple and we got everything up and running safely. The P61A has an ignitor so I didn't have to do much other than load some pellets and cut a whole. I was told I needed the Direct Vent Passthrough kit by the dealer due to the proximity to a window.

I've got the stove running and I notice a slight odor of pellets while its burning. Not offensive, but noticable. No perceptiable smoke at all in the room and the area behind the stove smells of fresh air. So far the stove is heating up the family room nicely. We have an open concept colonial so I'm hoping this stove will heat the whole house.

I've included a number of pictures of the mock up, install and with her lit. Any help with the odor would be great. I've verified all connections were sealed very well with high temp silicone and secured with screws. The only area that is not screwed together is the exhaust pipe and the stove junction (couldn't see drilling through the heavy duty steel).

-Chris

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Gotta ask, are you sure it's a wood burning smell, or something else? I ask because it is normal for a new stove to give off a smell of oils, paints, etc. when first burned. Most manufacturers say to crank it up to burn this stuff off. If it is wood you smell, you can use high temp foil tape or silicone on the pipe joints.
 
that's one helluva flame!!!! Was that right after startup or is that after it's been burning a while? If it is the latter, then cut back on the feed rate.
 
It might be just the new smell burning off , when I got my Quad it really smelled up the house for several hours until all of the oils etc are gone. If you have a woody smell, you might need more silicone around the joints of your exhaust vent.
 
Congrats on the new install, and thanks for the pics....stove looks great....and welcome to the forum.

One question in regards to the wood odor. I see in pic #3 that it looks like you simply put a 45 degree elbow on the stove exhaust pipe and filled the gap w/ silicone....is that correct?

Done correctly, there is supposed to be a "stove adapter" on the stove exhaust, sealed & screwed to the pipe, and THEN the regular pellet pipe attaches to that.

www.dynamitebuys.com/store/cart.php?m=product_detail&p=689

Maybe I just don't see it there....the pic is a little fuzzy.
 
imacman said:
Congrats on the new install, and thanks for the pics....stove looks great....and welcome to the forum.

One question in regards to the wood odor. I see in pic #3 that it looks like you simply put a 45 degree elbow on the stove exhaust pipe and filled the gap w/ silicone....is that correct?

Done correctly, there is supposed to be a "stove adapter" on the stove exhaust, sealed & screwed to the pipe, and THEN the regular pellet pipe attaches to that.

www.dynamitebuys.com/store/cart.php?m=product_detail&p=689

Maybe I just don't see it there....the pic is a little fuzzy.

^ x2 ^ You need the stove adapter (if its not there) The first thing I noticed is there is no surge protector on your stove.. Protect your investment and don't buy a cheap one. Other than that.... Welcome to the forum and that things a Beast, from what I hear.
 
DexterDay said:
.....The first thing I noticed is there is no surge protector on your stove.. Protect your investment and don't buy a cheap one........

Yep, good catch there Dexter. They are expensive stoves.....Get a surge protector on that puppy ASAP!
 
Nice stove.

In addition to what has already been brought up how close are those drapes to the stove, you might want to check that as well.

Welcome to the forum ckage83, and yes we can be picky, we don't want to loose anyone.
 
Do you have any vertical run outside your house? Why not go out the other wall? Prevailing wind, Front of house, etc. That window to the right of the stove looks pretty close. Quad and many other Manufacturers recommend 4' from any window. Unless you went up a fair amount outside? The other window looks to be about 4' or better.
 
If that's your room sensor on the window I would suggest you move it as the cold window will give it false readings.
 
Are you using the proper double wall pellet exhaust pipe? the pipe in the picture looks like the one used for gas/propane venting.
 
Thanks for the warm welcome and the tons of replies! The odor has left, I called the shop I ordered it from and they assured me it was the curing of the stove. No more odor in the house! As for the install. We placed the stove in the corner since it directs the heat most efficiantly accross the house. The room is a large family room with vaulted ceilings. The proximity from the stove to the drapes is about 24" plenty of space and they dont even get warm. The piping coming off the stove IS a stove adapter sandwiched into a 45, then run 3 feet out of the house and terminates to a jet cap pointed down. I may modify this and run it up the side of the house in the summer but it looks fine for now and 2 different shops reccomended this type of install. Regarding the proximity to the window: harman reccomends 4 feet unless you have an outside air draw, in that case only 18" is needed. All piping is 3" double walled approved for pellet stoves specifically.

I let it run all night and it kept the first floor above 74. The flame remains big, I'll turn the feed rate down a bit and see how that works out. The stove didn't really heat the second floor much which kind of worries me. However, I have not heard the furnace turn on now in quite some time.

we just moved into the house so I know I have a surge protector in a box somewhere. Seems everyday I need another thing for the stove. Last night I ran out and bought a carbon monoxide monitor for the room and today I really need a couple of fire extinguishers in the house.

Quick question: how safe are these really? I work 13 hours a day and my wife is gone about 8. I'd love to leave the stove on low so my dogs can stay warm but I don't know if I trust a fire source going in my living room.

Also, a picture of my pellet supply. I bought 2 tons and the shop messed up a bunch of things for me so they gave me a free ton of pellets too. Should be good for the season at 80 degrees!

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There are many safety devices on them. Most have at least 3-6. Most have 3 snap disc's, vacuum switch, high temp shutdown. Many people run them 24/7, including me. Make sure you clean your stove often. Everyone on here has a different schedule. I do full cleaning every 2 weeks ( about a half ton ). Some do it once a week, once a month, etc. Keep all passages, firepot, blowers, pipe, heat exchanger, etc.
Try getting a fan and either force the warm air upstairs or put fan at the top of the steps and push the cold air down to the stove. Keep the air moving and you should be able to sleep comfortably at night. (With that BIG of a stove) Congrats!!
 
Thanks for the advice! I'm loving how warm it is finally in this house. I bought a huge stove because our house is 2400 sqr feet. I know I cant heat the WHOLE thing but I really wanted to offset the tank of oil per 3 weeks I was burning when we first moved in. I expect next year I will burn 4-5 tons of pellets. My wife wants the house at 75 all the time. This may be my own fault since our old house never went above 65.
 
What ever else you do make certain that every place that water lines run through are warm enough to prevent freezing the pipes.

Better preventing this than cleaning up afterwards.
 
SmokeyTheBear said:
What ever else you do make certain that every place that water lines run through are warm enough to prevent freezing the pipes.

Better preventing this than cleaning up afterwards.

Or paying the plumber! Ouch!!!!
 
Oh yeah. The rest of the house is warm. Basement is a little cooler since the furnace isn't running like it used to (every minute of every day) but the second floor is well over 65. No threat of freezing here.
 
In regards to your safety question.

These stoves are safe provided you have it installed properly, keep it cleaned and otherwise properly maintained, and don't run with any of the safeties jumpered or otherwise out of the system.

The biggest danger is that you have to properly handle and dispose of the ash. People get bit by that all of the time. There can be hot coals buried in the ash that can ignite a fire many days after you think everything is out.

Wood ash (and that is what it is) is an excellent insulator and your stove is going to produce a lot of it, that makes it easy for a hot coal to stay hidden and hot for a long while.

Make certain that the only thing you put ash in is a metal container with a tight fitting lid and that it is placed on a noncombustible surface in an area well away from any combustible materials (and outdoors only).
 
To assist in moving the warm air in you new home. If you have a hot air system set the blower fan to "on" as this will ciruclate the warm air throughout the house.
 
Hello

Welcome to the forum and thanks so much for the pics. By posting the pics right away, you got all our info real quick! Good Job!!

I heat our whole house here in Southern NH with my stove so you should be in good shape. :)

Make sure the bag of pellets are not cold before dumping them into the stove because that may cause condensation. These stoves do not like moisture!! So you are all set. Stay nice and warm cheaply and have a good nite!!
 

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