Maine wood Pellet Company "super premium" pine pellet

I like MWP pellets too. So if they offer an all soft pellet compared with a mixture of hard and soft like they have now, how would that mean less cleaning? Wouldn't it mean more dust, since soft (pine) wood burns faster?

i've been burning mwp's since they started selling. from the very bad first year to this year. the people at the mill are awesome to deal with , and i will continue to buy my heat from them as they are only a short distance from my garage door. i might even be interested in trying these new pellets.

downtocamp said:

I like MWP pellets too. So if they offer an all soft pellet compared with a mixture of hard and soft like they have now, how would that mean less cleaning? Wouldn't it mean more dust, since soft (pine) wood burns faster?

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Like, oh my Gawd! Like, totally old school, ya know? I mean, like really.
Ok, just goofing. But seriously, if you think softwoods burn dirtier and faster, buy a few bags, burn them and report back. You will sing a different tune.

The primary difference that hardwood had over softwood in terms of burning was the density of the wood. That difference is removed when the wood fiber is pressure formed into pellets.

The primary difference between pellets these day is exactly how dense they are and how much of that density is moisture.

Thanks, Smokey, for explaining that to me. That's very interesting. I would like to try the pine pellets when they come out if they're not too expensive. Didn't appreciate the sarcastic comment from johnny, though - I admit I'm a newbie but I come to this forum to learn stuff not to be made fun of. I guess I'm just sensitive to that kind of put down humor.

johnnycomelately said:

downtocamp said:

I like MWP pellets too. So if they offer an all soft pellet compared with a mixture of hard and soft like they have now, how would that mean less cleaning? Wouldn't it mean more dust, since soft (pine) wood burns faster?

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Like, oh my Gawd! Like, totally old school, ya know? I mean, like really.
Ok, just goofing. But seriously, if you think softwoods burn dirtier and faster, buy a few bags, burn them and report back. You will sing a different tune.

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whether you were "just goofing" as you say, or not, this was un called for...the man came here to ask a question and did not deserve to be sh#t on. by looking at your post count, i think it is fair to say, that he is not much newer than you, to the forum.

if you cant be helpful, without making someone feel like crap for a question they ask, then please keep your comments to yourself. we here on this forum try to help any and all who come here in search of advice or help. most of the people have been here for a long time, and have respect for others. it would be nice if you could do the same...just sayin'


mike

and just for the rcord.... i asked the same question, when i joined the forum 3 yrs ago. i was new to pellet stoves,and heard all the stories about soft and hardwood pellets...as was told to me as a boy.."the only dumb question was the one that wasn't asked" please think of this the next time you want to post a comment like that.

and just for the record.... i asked the same question, when i joined the forum 3 yrs ago. i was new to pellet stoves,and heard all the stories about soft and hardwood pellets...as was told to me as a boy.."the only dumb question was the one that wasn't asked" please think of this the next time you want to post a comment like that.

downtocamp said:

Thanks, Smokey, for explaining that to me. That's very interesting. I would like to try the pine pellets when they come out if they're not too expensive. Didn't appreciate the sarcastic comment from johnny, though - I admit I'm a newbie but I come to this forum to learn stuff not to be made fun of. I guess I'm just sensitive to that kind of put down humor.

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You would be surprised how many peeps think wood pellets are just like fire wood. Its just not so. Once the pellet is compressed the fiber density is equalized. Thats where fire wood is different. Softwood logs not as dense as a hardwood log. So it takes more fuel to get the same burn length out of a fill.

I have burned softwoods on and off from 2000 on and burned them in 3 different stoves. I have found them to be hotter and burn cleaner than the average hardwood. I have also found they last just about as long too. And generally if there hotter(higher BTU's) you can run the stove at a lower feed rate as well. It takes a really good quality hardwood pellet to burn as clean as the softies. Softwood fiber for the most part has less ash content/volume and the ash is very light. Check the sticky links for some of the testing I have done for comparision.

Softwoods are generally denser than what we normally see in hardwood pellets(some hardwoods also have to be adjusted due to density). So you need to adjust for the extra fuel with air/feed damper/trim to comp or you could get an over rich condition. Black window glass.

I agree with mj the only "dumb question" is the one that was never asked!

Well said MJbrown.

I too have burned softwoods, Vermont's actually. They were a good pellet, as hot as any hardwood I have burned and they may have been a bit cleaner but not enough to really notice. The one thing I did notice is that they did seem to burn faster than the hardwoods I burned. I tried a # of different settings and modes (room/stove temp) and just couldn't get a bag of softwoods to last as long as a bag of hardwoods.

All that being said, I would buy them again but not at the prices they want now.

Just had 3 tons delivered for next year from Steve at the Pellet Warehouse. $209/ton
The revamped formula has worked well for us this past Winter.
I would definitely be interested in trying the "Super Premium"!!
Will check with Steve to see what he has heard. Might even have a price.

lessoil said:

Just had 3 tons delivered for next year from Steve at the Pellet Warehouse. $209/ton
The revamped formula has worked well for us this past Winter.
I would definitely be interested in trying the "Super Premium"!!
Will check with Steve to see what he has heard. Might even have a price.

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He didn't say anything to me when he was here yesterday, he'll be back next week with the rest of my order.

j-takeman said:

downtocamp said:

Thanks, Smokey, for explaining that to me. That's very interesting. I would like to try the pine pellets when they come out if they're not too expensive. Didn't appreciate the sarcastic comment from johnny, though - I admit I'm a newbie but I come to this forum to learn stuff not to be made fun of. I guess I'm just sensitive to that kind of put down humor.

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You would be surprised how many peeps think wood pellets are just like fire wood. Its just not so. Once the pellet is compressed the fiber density is equalized. Thats where fire wood is different. Softwood logs not as dense as a hardwood log. So it takes more fuel to get the same burn length out of a fill.

I have burned softwoods on and off from 2000 on and burned them in 3 different stoves. I have found them to be hotter and burn cleaner than the average hardwood. I have also found they last just about as long too. And generally if there hotter(higher BTU's) you can run the stove at a lower feed rate as well. It takes a really good quality hardwood pellet to burn as clean as the softies. Softwood fiber for the most part has less ash content/volume and the ash is very light. Check the sticky links for some of the testing I have done for comparision.

Softwoods are generally denser than what we normally see in hardwood pellets(some hardwoods also have to be adjusted due to density). So you need to adjust for the extra fuel with air/feed damper/trim to comp or you could get an over rich condition. Black window glass.

I agree with mj the only "dumb question" is the one that was never asked!

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i agree with you most people that use to burn wood think hardwood is the way to go . i finally got my dad to believe in the softwoods now he love the spruce pointes . now if my boss will just listen but he is stuck on dry creek .

$209!! Nice!!

still snowing here.

nksdad2007 said:

still snowing here.

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Got done this mornin' here, big meltism all day.

On the origanal track, talked to "my guy" earlier today, he says the "Supers" are coming in June, wondered if I was interested. He's gonna see what he can do me for a deal, I'd like probably 3 ton of the regulars, and a couple superdoopers, gonna get back at me, I'll keep ya pisted.

johnnycomelately said:

downtocamp said:

I like MWP pellets too. So if they offer an all soft pellet compared with a mixture of hard and soft like they have now, how would that mean less cleaning? Wouldn't it mean more dust, since soft (pine) wood burns faster?

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Like, oh my Gawd! Like, totally old school, ya know? I mean, like really.
Ok, just goofing. But seriously, if you think softwoods burn dirtier and faster, buy a few bags, burn them and report back. You will sing a different tune.

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"whether you were “just goofing†as you say, or not, this was un called for…the man came here to ask a question and did not deserve to be sh#t on. by looking at your post count, i think it is fair to say, that he is not much newer than you, to the forum.

if you cant be helpful, without making someone feel like crap for a question they ask, then please keep your comments to yourself. we here on this forum try to help any and all who come here in search of advice or help. most of the people have been here for a long time, and have respect for others. it would be nice if you could do the same…just sayin’


mike"

Dear Mike and other Hearth.com'ers,
Please accept this as my official apoligy for being unsensitive to what I agree is a very legitimate question. Part of the problem with forums like this is that when you read something, at times it can be difficult to interpret tone. I was really trying to be playful and jovial in my response but after going back and reading this, I can see where it could be misconstrued. I am willing to admit the error of my ways if you will find it in you to forgive me.I will certainly try to be more cognisent in what I write in my postings here and I will make concerted efforts to "tone it down" a bit. I am just somehat of a weirdo and at times get carried away, coupled with the fact that at 2am, I was in the midsts of a heavy buzz/boarderline drunk.
In any event, softwoods can be great pellets, and I admit that I questioned this at one time as well.

mjbrown65 said:

and just for the record.... i asked the same question, when i joined the forum 3 yrs ago. i was new to pellet stoves,and heard all the stories about soft and hardwood pellets...as was told to me as a boy.."the only dumb question was the one that wasn't asked" please think of this the next time you want to post a comment like that.

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Yep, for the record, I asked same question when I joined. Most people here are nice and patient, remembering the fact of why the questions are asked :We are trying to heat our residence safely and economically !

I have learned ALOT from everyone here in 2+years. Enjoy the posters, humor, and site immensely.
People actually try to help each other here and I enjoy trying to lend a hand.
Still my favorite site of the web.

tumbles said:

I appreciate the appology to the forum. It was the Right thing to do. It's behind us and lets all keep posting information and questions so we can all learn from each other. This has been a great site for information and we are all smarter for it. Nice picture by the way. I can tell you have a sense of humor, but time and place is everything.

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Thamk u tumbles. When I am out of line I can admit it.
Now, that its behind us, go get yourself some Okies softwoods and you will know what all the chatter is about. Go gettem champ

Thanks, johnny- I accept the apology and will move on to enjoying this forum. There's a great deal of knowledge here to share, and I've come to kind of depend on it! Nice to know you're all here!