Is this the next wave of technology in wood stoves ?

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yeah well - wait'll I get my BK Elvis installed - then Ill be like the guys who own Harleys trash talking on everyones else's 2nd rate bike.

Ill even peddle some fake T-shirts of my own

"the few, the proud, the BKs"
LOL

Some of these guys are just know it alls! lol
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Now that's funny..need more of that around here..lol.
When I first logged onto here I figured I'd read a few threads..make a few post and that would be it.
I mean how much talk can there be about wood stoves..how wrong I was...great info and peeps here.
 
Garjan111 said:
There is NO firebrick on the top anymore on the Country stoves. Just the new fiber boards and the blanket on top of that. They use just the fiber boards on all of there EPA fireplaces also for years now and works really well. The boards actually glow red with a really hot fire. Seems to work well and the price didn't change by the way, ha.

Gary
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I guess they have updated their design since I bought my stove 4 years ago, has me thinking to contact dealer and see if i can buy one of the fiber boards that will fit my stove and get rid of the upper bricks, country web site says Ceramic-fiber blanket utilizes technology developed by NASA that has 10 times the insulation value of firebrick, radiating heat back into the firebox and creating higher efficiencies and cleaner gas.
 
tfdchief said:
BeGreen said:
Many are built that way. But many are not. Lopi, Regency and PE sell a lot of stoves.
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BG,
This thread and your statement caught my eye because my new Hampton H200 (Regency) seems to only have an intrigal SS baffle/burn tubes....nothing else up there like so many other stoves. As I researched the Hampton, that was one thing I wasn't to sure about. Having installed and burned it, I am no longer concerned though. The stove performs very well, easy to operate, and I am very pleased. Just wondering if you had any thoughts on how they got away without insulating the baffle? Thanks, Steve
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As noted, not every stove uses a top insulation blanket or insulation board. Lots do not. Some use firebrick, some use a baffle+secondary rack, some use a baffle box. And then there is the whole category of down and sidedraft stoves which are another type of construction. The H200/H300 are like the Jotul F3CB and Castine with just a baffle/secondary rack.
 
As noted, not every stove uses a top insulation blanket or insulation board. Lots do not. Some use firebrick, some use a baffle+secondary rack, some use a baffle box. And then there is the whole category of down and sidedraft stoves which are another type of construction. The H200/H300 are like the Jotul F3CB and Castine with just a baffle/secondary rack.
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BG, thanks. I did not realize there were that many that did not use the brick and or insulation. I guess that it is the engineered package that matters, not individual components. The H200 seems to me, so far, to be very well engineered.
 
HotCoals said:
Now that's funny..need more of that around here..lol.
When I first logged onto here I figured I'd read a few threads..make a few post and that would be it.
I mean how much talk can there be about wood stoves..how wrong I was...great info and peeps here.
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We all fell into that trap HotCoals . . . Hearth.com just kind of sucks you in . . . and unless you're into burning wood you just wouldn't understand . . . I know many of my friends just don't get it or wonder exactly how a forum devoted to woodstoves and burning wood can be that interesting.
 
Elderthewelder said:
Garjan111 said:
There is NO firebrick on the top anymore on the Country stoves. Just the new fiber boards and the blanket on top of that. They use just the fiber boards on all of there EPA fireplaces also for years now and works really well. The boards actually glow red with a really hot fire. Seems to work well and the price didn't change by the way, ha.

Gary
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I guess they have updated their design since I bought my stove 4 years ago, has me thinking to contact dealer and see if i can buy one of the fiber boards that will fit my stove and get rid of the upper bricks, country web site says Ceramic-fiber blanket utilizes technology developed by NASA that has 10 times the insulation value of firebrick, radiating heat back into the firebox and creating higher efficiencies and cleaner gas.
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The part # is H8016. It has the baffle boards and the blanket in the kit.

Gary
 
Garjan111 said:
Elderthewelder said:
Garjan111 said:
There is NO firebrick on the top anymore on the Country stoves. Just the new fiber boards and the blanket on top of that. They use just the fiber boards on all of there EPA fireplaces also for years now and works really well. The boards actually glow red with a really hot fire. Seems to work well and the price didn't change by the way, ha.

Gary
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I guess they have updated their design since I bought my stove 4 years ago, has me thinking to contact dealer and see if i can buy one of the fiber boards that will fit my stove and get rid of the upper bricks, country web site says Ceramic-fiber blanket utilizes technology developed by NASA that has 10 times the insulation value of firebrick, radiating heat back into the firebox and creating higher efficiencies and cleaner gas.
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The part # is H8016. It has the baffle boards and the blanket in the kit.

Gary
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Thanks Gary, I appreciate the info, any idea on what this may cost? not a huge deal if you do not know, was just curious.

So they just added the fiber boards and did not change the actual design of the stove/ just want to make sure it will fit my insert
 
Elderthewelder said:
Garjan111 said:
Elderthewelder said:
Garjan111 said:
There is NO firebrick on the top anymore on the Country stoves. Just the new fiber boards and the blanket on top of that. They use just the fiber boards on all of there EPA fireplaces also for years now and works really well. The boards actually glow red with a really hot fire. Seems to work well and the price didn't change by the way, ha.

Gary
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I guess they have updated their design since I bought my stove 4 years ago, has me thinking to contact dealer and see if i can buy one of the fiber boards that will fit my stove and get rid of the upper bricks, country web site says Ceramic-fiber blanket utilizes technology developed by NASA that has 10 times the insulation value of firebrick, radiating heat back into the firebox and creating higher efficiencies and cleaner gas.
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The part # is H8016. It has the baffle boards and the blanket in the kit.

Gary
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Thanks Gary, I appreciate the info, any idea on what this may cost? not a huge deal if you do not know, was just curious.

So they just added the fiber boards and did not change the actual design of the stove/ just want to make sure it will fit my insert
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List price is $125.04 for boards and blanket. Its important to keep the blanket in as to seal all the cracks around the bricks or the boards. I said that cuz someone above said he threw his away.

Gary
 
Garjan111 said:
Elderthewelder said:
Garjan111 said:
Elderthewelder said:
Garjan111 said:
There is NO firebrick on the top anymore on the Country stoves. Just the new fiber boards and the blanket on top of that. They use just the fiber boards on all of there EPA fireplaces also for years now and works really well. The boards actually glow red with a really hot fire. Seems to work well and the price didn't change by the way, ha.

Gary
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I guess they have updated their design since I bought my stove 4 years ago, has me thinking to contact dealer and see if i can buy one of the fiber boards that will fit my stove and get rid of the upper bricks, country web site says Ceramic-fiber blanket utilizes technology developed by NASA that has 10 times the insulation value of firebrick, radiating heat back into the firebox and creating higher efficiencies and cleaner gas.
Click to expand...


The part # is H8016. It has the baffle boards and the blanket in the kit.

Gary
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Thanks Gary, I appreciate the info, any idea on what this may cost? not a huge deal if you do not know, was just curious.

So they just added the fiber boards and did not change the actual design of the stove/ just want to make sure it will fit my insert
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List price is $125.04 for boards and blanket. Its important to keep the blanket in as to seal all the cracks around the bricks or the boards. I said that cuz someone above said he threw his away.

Gary
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Yeah, that would be me who threw away his blanket,
I thought i was having draft issues cause my stove took forever to heat up and wood would not burn good, so i took blanket out
Turned out my wood was not seasoned enough, figured this out when I found this site

anyway i emailed a Country dealer and told him I was missing the blanket and asked him about the boards that Country are now using, here is his response

"You should get the blanket. We sell that ½†thick kaowool blanket for $8 per foot. It is a 2’ wide roll and I think for your stove you will need about 1’. We have it in stock most of the time.

As for the ceramic baffle I think it would be a huge mistake to convert over to the ceramic board baffle. First off the ceramic baffle is extremely fragile and very expensive. It will not make the stove perform any better. Lennox did it for cost cutting reasons, although at the price they are selling the replacement boards for I cant see how it is saving them much money.

I predict a bunch of people going the opposite way in the not so distant future. Replacements on the 210 size board are over $150. I would expect the 160 to be at least $100 although I have not yet received actual pricing on it yet."

So i guess I will just go buy the Kaowool and put it on top of my firebricks
 
My Osburn uses two fiber board baffles that are made out of vermiculite. When researching stoves I looked at replacement parts and was not thrilled at the high cost. I did find an old version of the manual for my stove and they used firebrick in the past on this stove. When it comes time to replace the baffles I will make some brackets and go to firebrick.
 
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