Hearthstone Equinox

I would think on a woodstove like that, there might be more damage from any over-firing that it may have gone through than any water it was exposed to. I would look for rust and any warping of parts. Here's a link to and exploded view and parts list (for the model 8000) so you can see how the stove is put together-

http://woodheatstoves.com/hearthstone-equinox-model-8000-exploded-view-and-parts-list-p-12303.html

So the stove is brand new and never been fired? If so how long was it under water? I wouldn't be afraid of a little bit of surface rust . How much are they asking for it?

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I also was wondering how much they were asking for it.

I think the point certified106 is making is that if its being advertised as "new", it should never have been installed or fired, even once. There's only one kind of new, and that's... well, new. Anything else is used. Owner's price (and your offer) should match accordingly.

gonefishin said:

I do not know yet if it has been fired, does that make a difference?
Price I will find out tonight when I go look at the stove and check out the damage.
Thank you for the information, the parts list is also a big help.

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Also, if not fired you can get a $300 tax credit (unless your buying it from a dealer) If your buying it from a private seller, fired no tax credit, so keep in mind to add the $300 into the mix.

Speaking of which, does the tax credit apply to showroom demo units? Meaning new but the store did have it fired up?

My old fireview went through a fire before I bought it. It to was exposed to high amounts of moisture. I found that my soapstone wass soft and needed to be replaced. Also once there is rust it is hard to get rid of.
I work in a turbine overhaul facility. I have acess to all sorts of strippers, media blasters, rust removers and conditioners.
after soaking it in rust remover, media blasting with aluminum oxide and painted immediatly after, one year later I have small amounts of surface rust just peeking through.

No big deal, I did what I could. Rust never sleeps.

If this guy was willing to sell you a brand new one for a few hundred more, with a new stove warranty..I'd go new. You're looking at a very high end stove, why skimp. If it was a steel home depot $799 stove discounted to $599 for a little rust, who cares, but this is a grandaddy stove from a excellent manufacturer. I'd offer him $2500 for the damaged one with no warranty, or grab a new one from him and make the best deal possible.

I sat down with some time to spare this week, and calculated payoff of my stove and installation and chainsaw and chaps and the purchase of firewood this year. I calculated that if fuel oil stays at current prices (which I don't expect, but it could happen), I'll be at break-even point when I've saved another 800 gallons of fuel. I used almost 700 less this year than I normally do, due to boiler failure and having to use the woodstove exclusively.

Realistically, in two more years, this stove won't owe me a thing. And that's calculating in the purchase of seven cords of birch cut to length, and another 9-cord logging truck load I'm expecting in a few months, which is about a five year supply of birch for me. All I'll need to do is supplement that with a cord or two yearly of poplar for mixing.

That's going to vary for everyone based on house size, insulation, siting, and layout, climate, cost of alternative fuel, and so on. But running those numbers sure takes a lot of the sting out of buying the stove.

I figured you were at Lehmans today for the flood sale. Infact the guy that rung up my stove there today mentioned the first guy showed up a 5am waiting for hours for the place to open to buy the equinox, and the fellow just behind him wanted it too. Guess I know who that was! I'll start a new thread for my stove purchase there.

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OhioBurner© said:

I figured you were at Lehmans today for the flood sale. Infact the guy that rung up my stove there today mentioned the first guy showed up a 5am waiting for hours for the place to open to buy the equinox, and the fellow just behind him wanted it too.

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Yes, that was me, my second choice is the Jotul f600, do you know much about those and how they compare to soapstone?

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I'd start a new thread and ask, I dont know much anything about soapstone stoves, the hearth stone I bought was all cast iron. I really wish the F600 would work but its just too big. What I really wanted was a right hand side door, but the size of the F500 or slightly less.

gonefishin said:

you are right, I have been crunching the numbers for a couple days to make sure. It sure is nice to buy something that expensive that actually gives you a return on your money!

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You've got it! You'll see people here encourage you to get a stove you really like, because the payoff is real--it's just a matter of having the means up front, and then a question of how long until the pay off. Not true for everyone, of course--someone in Arizona with a passive solar home will have a different situation from someone who is spending 3-6K a year to heat their house. But once you see your own numbers, it puts it all into perspective.

Good luck with your selection. BTW, the more you explain about your location, house, lifestyle, the better people here can advise you on stoves.

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Franks said:

If this guy was willing to sell you a brand new one for a few hundred more, with a new stove warranty..I'd go new. You're looking at a very high end stove, why skimp. If it was a steel home depot $799 stove discounted to $599 for a little rust, who cares, but this is a grandaddy stove from a excellent manufacturer. I'd offer him $2500 for the damaged one with no warranty, or grab a new one from him and make the best deal possible.

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Good call, stove sold for 2600, I was third in line, 2 hrs early, and of course person first in line wanted equinox, so I'm bumed, they are selling new equinox at $3300, so, back to square one...not sure if I want to spend that much but that stove fits right for my house....Ughhhhhh.

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Yup, it helps me be a good guesser when I know what dealer cost is. Dont sweat it now, just buy the new one for $3300. Thats still way below retail. Your still getting an excellent value.

Unless you were going to save a lot of money, maybe $300 or more, I would buy local if possible. You'll get much better after the sale local service. Also, if it was me, I would charge a customer less for the chimney and labor if they bought the stove from me. So add that all in and try to buy local if the price is close enough.