I'll have to look at the stove inside, once I stop buring. Outside looks fine under the heat shields. I can say I really don't hammer my stove. Usually run a 600- 700 top temp. Thanks I'll check the picture out.ohlongarm said:
Quadra-Fire 5700 - Good stove?
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Like I said , years ago I had Country S210 woodstove, and that smaller stove put this 5700 to shame on heat output. Years ago I never even had a moisture meter to check my wood, which I check now and find to be about 15-19% , so I'm not burning green wood. Like you said, it seems like the stove design or change has hinder the heat output. I noticed it right away, as I was worried the stove being much bigger than my Country stove, I'd be driving us out of the room the stove was in to heat to rest of the house, never.. And you my friend said it all. You got to compare apples to apples. So I realize now I'm not pipe dreaming about the stove size vereses the heat output. Yes, the outside of the stove is big, but thats about it. Glad someone finally fessed up as to the heat output.ohlongarm said:My question is WHY did Quadrafire change the air controls and firebox size on the 5700?as I mentioned previously my 2004 mfg'd unit did a great job,despite the air channels and sides cracking. My dealer Northfield Fireplace Shoppe was awesome in getting the new Quad 5700 installed,and given the devils his dues Quadrafire did stand behind the defective unit 100%. The new stove however did not put out 50%the heat of the old one,and who the hell come up with that ACC junk?During the short 2 weeks I had the new Quad we hit overnight temps in the below zero range and that's when I knew the NEW Quad had to go it just couldn't keep up. Anyways took a hit but have the King in it's place.
Some of the older stoves were good units that put out a lot of heat, was your old stove a non EPA?
My old Country Performer S210 was an epa stove, secondary burn tubes, just like the Quad. Country stove was from the 80's. That's why I can believe the heat doesn't drive you out from this stove. I took one of the heat shields off the side of my Quad while it was still pretty warm. Bingo! Tons of heat is being kept in the Quad for sure. I can't imagine the heat that stove would throw off then. Kind of wasting the heat, that could be radiating from the stove. My Quad is a 2009 model.oldspark said:
An unshielded steel stove, with its flat sides, radiates heat in a straight line. There are many homes where allowing 36" from each side of the stove (6 feet + the stove width) is too much space to give up in a room. Softer radiant heaters made from soapstone or cast iron will have some closer clearances depending on their design. The modern convection heater has developed from market demand for closer clearances and a gentler heat. A convection heater is putting out the same amount of heat as a radiant heater. But instead of directly radiating, it is reflected back to the stove body where it heats the air gap between the outer shell and the stove body. This hot air convects upward away from the stove. Many convection stoves will also have a fan to boost the warm air velocity.
If the stove is in a space where clearances are not an issue and the radiant heat is desired, then a radiant stove may be what you are looking for. There are a few on the market. But if it is in a location with nearby furniture, walls or other combustibles, or in a location like a basement where people don't often go, then get a convective stove.
If you remove the shields from a convective stove, you are altering the tested design and probably voiding the warranty. Regardless, be sure that the nearest combustible is no closer than 3 feet to the side (or rear) where the shield was removed.
If the stove is in a space where clearances are not an issue and the radiant heat is desired, then a radiant stove may be what you are looking for. There are a few on the market. But if it is in a location with nearby furniture, walls or other combustibles, or in a location like a basement where people don't often go, then get a convective stove.
If you remove the shields from a convective stove, you are altering the tested design and probably voiding the warranty. Regardless, be sure that the nearest combustible is no closer than 3 feet to the side (or rear) where the shield was removed.
I am no way going to remove any heat shields. As you said I would be closer than 36 inches to a side wall. I think in the future I would really be happy with a Woodstock soap stone stove. I feel your getting the most from your heat, storing it in the stone and releasing it at a steady rate. I like the fact that more of the stoves surface area is allowing heat to radiate. Years ago our first stove was a little Heartstone III model. That little soapstone stove could crank out some heat, Only trouble is it only had like a little over a 1 cu. ft. fire box. I remember it took like 12 in. long wood max.BeGreen said:
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That was an interesting reply,now I'm wondering what is a Blaze King Ultra with side shields considered radiant or convection. I've heard of some removing the side shields on the Blaze King ultra to get more heat. Thanks.BeGreen said:
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My stove is an EPA installed in '09. The dealer had the '08 model in stock but told me they could order the "new" model with the acc. I opted for the model they had and boy am I glad. I control the air primary and rear air. I have no problem heating this place. 90 plus in the living room, 80's in the kitchen and then a bit cooler in the bedrooms. No cracks, no issues I love my Quad.
I'm an outsider here, with a Quad 3100 bought in 1995. I read with interest the various comments here, most all of which pertain to my stove. I chose the Quad partially based on the side shields, so I could place it closer to the wall. I run mine at 800 degrees often, and while the tubes sometimes glow it has done no damage. My latch is also 2/3 the way up. I have the primary and secondary controls, and as long as I keep the tubes in the back of the stove clean the air allows me a good burn. My chimney only needs cleaning about once every third year. I have a 22' tall cathedral ceiling and this stove can really crank for its size. I agree that the ash pan is not needed. I just realized this is the first year that I never bothered to use it.
Didn't mean to hijack the thread. Love my Quad and wanted to spout off...
Didn't mean to hijack the thread. Love my Quad and wanted to spout off...
I have and 09 model with the ACC control. You still have full control of the primary and rear air. The ACC feature lets you set your air controls where you would want the stove running once up to temp, so you activate the ACC which gives you good start up air, in 20 minutes it shuts that air down and allows the stove to run where you already of set the controls for a normal burn. Kind of like a set it and forget control set up. Most of the time I just manually run the stove. But it does have the ability to run the rear air manually as well.ratherbfishin said:
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