Mac Mini "Fail"

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So I picked up a Mac Mini because I already have an Apple 17" display that I use with my "ancient" Power Mac G4.

Well it was time for the G4 to go so I figured may as well get the Mini since I already have a perfectly good functioning monitor.

Sorry! Apple no longer makes the adapter to hook the two together. So now I either have to get a new monitor or swap out the Mini for an i-Mac or something.

WTF? Why is it so hard to make something that lasts or has a useful lifespan of more than a few years. Sure I bought the computer in 2003, but it just seems unnecessay to have to replace all the components after 8 years. What a waste.

Anyway I just need to rant. If I have to get a new system then I will give the old one to my daughter's Kindergarten teacher and move on.

J.P.
 
Is this a physical or electrical problem? Electrically, I would think the monitor and any current computer would be DVI--if so, can you chain two adaptors--the mini has to have an adaptor to a standard DVI...the monitor you won doesn't have a standard DVI input, or an adaptor to one??
 
What kind of connector does your old monitor use?

The sales website says the mini uses an HDMI plug and the box should have included an HDMI toi DVI adapter. If your monitor was made in 2003 I'll assume its VGA. You can get DVI to VGA adapters wherever computers are sold, ignore the Apple store for this, just go to Besy Buy or Radio Shack. Bring the adapter that came wiht your mini so they can match up the DVI end, there are two different pinouts I've seen for DVI.

Barring that working out, you can hook it up to your HDTV if you have one or buy a new monitor...new widescreen displays are fairly inexpensive today, a decent Viewsonic, LG, NEC or other display shouldn't run you more than $150 for a 20" widescreen.
 
So is it the monitor thats non-standard and not the mini? All the onfo I see online about the mini says it has an HDMI port and a mini DisplayPort, I don't see anything with a connector that looks like the one in your link.

When you say the DVI is the worng king, do you mean the shape is right but the pins doen't mesh?

I think you're a vicitm of 9-10 year old Apple proprietray connectors here and that you're going to be stuck picking up a new monitor. You should be able to get pretty much anything though.
 
It is not the Mini, well in a way it is, but the monitor will hook up to the adapter but the adapter will not hook up to the hdmi(mini) adapter.

It appears as if Apple used to make such an adapter but when the newer G5's came out, they changed the pin layout and basically made it impossible to use older displays with their newer models. I believe that the adapters were able to be used with the "G4Cube" but when the switch was made to the Mini then all bets were off with compitability.

I know I can get a new monitor, but I just wish that this whole "green" thing that Apple and other's talk about would be a reality.

I mean, how hard is it to keep a monitor compatible with a processor? I guess this is just the curmudgeon coming out in me.

J.P.
 
That was a LONG time ago - the ADC adapter.....
I got the wife a mini recently and it easily hooks to VGA as well as HDMI and DVI.

That covers about 99% of what is out there......hey, I have nice 17" monitor (tube) with VGA sitting right here...FREE to good home!

But my suggestion is to buy a decent flat screen with DVI or HDMI. I hate these newfangled wide screens...because web pages are not laid out wide like that, so I found an HP monitor which had a different aspect ratio...and she loves it.
http://www.ebay.com/ctg/Hewlett-Packard-LP2065-20-1-inch-LCD-Monitor-/57257802/r.html

Ancient is the right word! I bought my G4 tower in 1999. They stopped making them 7+ years ago....
 
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That was a LONG time ago - the ADC adapter.....
I got the wife a mini recently and it easily hooks to VGA as well as HDMI and DVI.

That covers about 99% of what is out there......hey, I have nice 17" monitor (tube) with VGA sitting right here...FREE to good home!

But my suggestion is to buy a decent flat screen with DVI or HDMI. I hate these newfangled wide screens...because web pages are not laid out wide like that, so I found an HP monitor which had a different aspect ratio...and she loves it.
http://www.ebay.com/ctg/Hewlett-Packard-LP2065-20-1-inch-LCD-Monitor-/57257802/r.html

Ancient is the right word! I bought my G4 tower in 1999. They stopped making them 7+ years ago....

"Long time ago" as in 5 years?

It's funny people bash Microsoft for their OS but try and get support for a 10 year old Mac OS....
 
SmokinJoe said:
It has an ADC cable.

http://www.macmall.com/p/Belkin-Adapters-and-Gender-Changers/product~dpno~7362892~pdp.ecjffgh

The above adapter is all that is available for our monitor, but it won't work for the mini since the DVI plug is the wrong kind.

J.P.

Ok, I'm still confused....The ADC end fits your old monitor, and the DVI end of this cable is a standard DVI. Yes, all
mac products (e.g. my laptop) use funny mini-DVIs that they seem to change every 6 mos (and that is annoying). But,
is I understand, you can adapt the mini to a standard DVI (either with the cable that came with it or an apple-brand adapter),
and then plug it into this Belkin ADC adapter. Prob $60+ for the two adapters, maybe you should buy a new DVI monitor?

I like a rant as much as the next guy, but you might actually have to settle for a solution.
 
woodgeek said:
SmokinJoe said:
It has an ADC cable.

http://www.macmall.com/p/Belkin-Adapters-and-Gender-Changers/product~dpno~7362892~pdp.ecjffgh

The above adapter is all that is available for our monitor, but it won't work for the mini since the DVI plug is the wrong kind.

J.P.

Ok, I'm still confused....The ADC end fits your old monitor, and the DVI end of this cable is a standard DVI. Yes, all
mac products (e.g. my laptop) use funny mini-DVIs that they seem to change every 6 mos (and that is annoying). But,
is I understand, you can adapt the mini to a standard DVI (either with the cable that came with it or an apple-brand adapter),
and then plug it into this Belkin ADC adapter. Prob $60+ for the two adapters, maybe you should buy a new DVI monitor?

I like a rant as much as the next guy, but you might actually have to settle for a solution.

The problem is that the standard DVI is the same on the Apple as it is on the Belkin. So you have essentially two female end adapters, so they won't go together.

There is no way to get a male DVI to fit the female DVI for the mini conversion, if I am making any sense.

I went to Best Buy with all the plugs and my monitor and they had nothing that would work.

So I sent back the mini and picked up an i-Mac.

I found a nice monitor,non-HD, that I liked with pretty good resolution and it was $300 including tax. I could get a smaller monitor but the one I looked at was 27" and pretty nice.

So when you factor in $700 for the mini and $300 for the monitor your up to a grand. My wife gets a discount on the i-mac for some reason thru work so we got the one with a smaller screen 21", but double the memory and pocessor speed of the mini for only $175 more.

Plus I am donating my complete G4 display keyboard and mouse to my daughters school.

So I guess it is a win win.

J.P.
 
The issue with the adapters I think was that they're designed to convert the female ADC port on the back of a MAC to a female DVI, so you cna plug in a standard DVI monitor. What you needed was a DVI-ADC adapter and not an ADC to DVI adapter, which does not seem to exist, I agree.

Sounds like your solution was the best overall, so YAY!
 
Dunno if Geffen still makes thier adapter and you needed a DVI gender changer.
Monocable and L-Com used to have the gender changers.

ACD never really caught on.
iPods and iPhones have, though. :)
 
Part of the issue also is that when you try and adapt an older monitor to the newer (Apple)system, the monitor is unsupported by the new system and all of the monitor functions may not work. It appears that with the older converters that the USB ports on the monitor would not function because the non-Apple adapter was missing the power pins on the ADC end.

This is why I sent the mini back. I did not want to have to settle for a partial fix and then have to buy more cables to make up for the lost USB ports.

Had I waited 6 more months when I bought my old G4, I could have had the G5 with the newer monitor and this would have been a non-issue.

J.P.
 
I love Apple hardware - well designed and excellent functionality. But will not buy any again because, IMO, they have rarely show interest in making new hardware or operating systems compatible with legacy hardware or software.
 
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http://pccables.com/

Happy hunting.
 
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