If I remember right, the Clydesdale is adjustable in depth. If I am correct, that might explain the diagram ambiguity. Hearth depth is measured from the front of the glass.
BeGreen said:If I remember right, the Clydesdale is adjustable in depth. If I am correct, that might explain the diagram ambiguity. Hearth depth is measured from the front of the glass.
BeGreen said:It is measured from the opening of the firedoor. The Clydesdale can be installed almost flush with the fireplace front or it can be extended out up to 4" for better convection and so that it fits in a shallower fireplace. How it is installed will determine the hearth depth.
bainbridgematt said:Ok so if I was looking at a QuadraFire 4100 that would work with my existing 18" hearth. However, the 5100 would not correct?
If I can swing the 4100 and knock out the firebricks from the current firebox, I might have a winner.
granpajohn said:When I was at this stage, I just built a cardboard model of the insert to the dimensions given in the (available online free) users manual. This was part to show the boss what it would look like, but part also to allay any fear of fit problems. Just shove that box in and see where it hits. Truth is; the insert is usually short enough that the back wall of the FP doesn't close in until it's above and out of the way. About 20" for a 4100 (IIRC)
It's easy...give it a try.
BTW, we would have wanted the 5100, but it is too big to fit our FP.
bainbridgematt said:I'm thinking if it doesn't fit that i will drill a hole in the fire brick and see what I've got going on behind the currently installed brick. Worst case I can patch it with motor if I determine it's a no-go right?
granpajohn said:Depending on the construction, you can get away with a lot. Since you brought it up...I used a Rutland product to repoint much of the mortar in there. I did some scratching and it was deteriorating pretty badly. Upside is: you can fix up a lot of non-structural cracks and mortar joints while you're in there.
BeGreen said:It is measured from the opening of the firedoor. The Clydesdale can be installed almost flush with the fireplace front or it can be extended out up to 4" for better convection and so that it fits in a shallower fireplace. How it is installed will determine the hearth depth.
If the hearth needs to be extended, it usually is not a deal breaker. There are options depending on the current hearth design.
bainbridgematt said:BeGreen said:It is measured from the opening of the firedoor. The Clydesdale can be installed almost flush with the fireplace front or it can be extended out up to 4" for better convection and so that it fits in a shallower fireplace. How it is installed will determine the hearth depth.
If the hearth needs to be extended, it usually is not a deal breaker. There are options depending on the current hearth design.
The Clydesdale looks like it might be a winner for my fireplace. My fiancée likes how much viewable area there is, and it would actually fit too. Looks like I can go either fully back or extended. Is there a benefit to one or the other. You mention better convection, but how much better?
Looks like I will have to extend the hearth regardless of the insert. I thought it was 18" but it turns out that it is only 16". I know there are a few different options for extending the hearth, but I have a bit of a concern that the existing hearth may not be a high enough R value. I have no idea what they used under the tile (see picture). is there any way to test that? (BTW the cat is not a permanent fixture, but as soon as I moved the fireplace screen he had to investigate what was going on).
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