looking for a replacement stove... suggestions?

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I do not know of a single stove that will take pipe straight out the back (I could insert a wisecrack joke here..lol). To my knowledge, all stoves have collars somewhere at the top or the back/top. Nothing straight out the back. An insert may fit depending on the height of the insert (under 36 inches).

Someone else will pipe in who has 100000 times more experience than me. I could be wrong!

Andrew
 
I can't name them all. But I have seen installations where pipe is Horizontal right out of the Stove. Read the "Bob Fisher Story" in the Pre EPA forum. Great read. Fisher was a stove that could do it out the back. Along with a Woodstock or Two and prob many others.
 
I had a Consolidated Dutchwest that had a reversible flue.. Even the new Dutchwest have this feature.. My T-5 is straight up venting only as I would imagine most stoves with a steel firebox would be.. Look at cast iron and some soapstones for the different venting setups..

Ray
 
sebois said:
I like the looks of the Jotul and the Lopi, and the New Englander and Osburns will meet my needs as well.

I notice that on the company websites, these stoves are all piped straight out the top. The collar for my pipe is roughly 36" off the floor; will these stoves take a horizontal rear pipe, or do they all have to be piped as shown in the company literature?


That is higher than most stove collars. You should be able to top vent.

But, if you do need a rear venting stove look at:

Vermont Castings/Dutchwest
Quadra Fire
Woodstock
Hearthstone (some, not all models)
Jotul
Napoleon (some, not all models)
 
DexterDay said:
I can't name them all. But I have seen installations where pipe is Horizontal right out of the Stove. Read the "Bob Fisher Story" in the Pre EPA forum. Great read. Fisher was a stove that could do it out the back. Along with a Woodstock or Two and prob many others.

A good read is right. See below!
 
Is there a difference between the aluminum and steel liners? Also, I'm a DIYer; how hard are they to install?
 
You CANNOT use aluminum as a liner, it HAS to be stainless steel.
Both rigid and flexible liner kits are available.
They can be difficult to install, depending on your chimney set-up.
 
traditions said:
I'll be curious to see what you find.I have had a bunch of these epa stoves over the past ten years ,and I have yet to find one that will heat like the old Defiant I had.Granted they burn less wood and hold a fire for 3 days,but they just are not the same for heat output.I had the biggest Englander and it woulndt come close to heating my 1800 sq ft 2 story from the basement.I then bought a Harmon tl 300.That thing would heat,but I had issues with the damper /door mechanism jamming and breaking,and it toasted my clay liner it burned so hot ,so I got rid of that.I bought a Thermo Control out of Uncle Henrys,this thing was huge!Before I realized my liner was cracked from the Harmon,I sold it because smoke came out the door when I opened it,and I couldnt have the house smelling like wood smoke.I think I would have kept that stove ,but at the time I didnt know of my chimney problems,and thought it was because I had a 8 inch pipe going a 6 inch flue.I always look up the chimney from the main floor thimble,so I never suspected the chimney to be clogged btween the cellar thimble and the main floor.When I took out the Thermo Control and sold it,I was looking up from down cellar and saw a half of one liner was cracked off and layed side ways across the chimney.No wonder smoke came out the door.at this point I was looking at a Pacific Energy Summit.A couple stove shops said it was the biggest heat output stove that they had,so I bought one.I have had this for two winters,and I am not impressed with it.It is probably fine for most people,but I am not very impressed.I have considered thinking of a wood furnace,but most dont work without power,and that can be a problem here on the coast.I have been on here lurking ,hoping to hear of a big wood stove,but they just dont seem big enough ,it must be the EPA regs wont allow a big stove or there isnt enough call for such a thing.I have been looking at the JA Roby ultimate,but I think I would have to drive to Canada to see one.With what I have spent on stoves since I built this house,I could bought alot of oil,but I like the wood heat,and with oil between 4 and 5 bucks a gallon,wood is the only affordable option.I want to buy something before winter to replace this Summit.If we had winters like we used to I would have to have two of these epa stoves.Good luck and Ill be watching

Man that Defiant must of been some stove to heat your home from the basement.I have a Mansfield in the basement which throws good heat though it won't heat my home entirely from the basement.How does the heat come up from your basement?Do you have vents or does the heat just travel up the steps.
I've sold a Summit and a Fireview.They didn't get the job done.I also sold a Blaze King King.It heated well however I had it going from a 8 inch pipe into a 6 inch adapter which caused smoke to come into the house when I refilled the stove.I have a Liberty on the first floor which throws great heat.Burn times are not that good compared to the Blaze King.Well with that said I don't know what will do it for you.Maybe a Mansfield,Liberty,Blaze King Princess since you have 6 inch pipe.If you go 8 inch then I would say Blaze King King or the Equinox.Put in a pipe damper for all the stoves except a Blaze King for longer burns.
 
traditions said:
I'll be curious to see what you find.I have had a bunch of these epa stoves over the past ten years ,and I have yet to find one that will heat like the old Defiant I had.Granted they burn less wood and hold a fire for 3 days,but they just are not the same for heat output.I had the biggest Englander and it woulndt come close to heating my 1800 sq ft 2 story from the basement.I then bought a Harmon tl 300.That thing would heat,but I had issues with the damper /door mechanism jamming and breaking,and it toasted my clay liner it burned so hot ,so I got rid of that.I bought a Thermo Control out of Uncle Henrys,this thing was huge!Before I realized my liner was cracked from the Harmon,I sold it because smoke came out the door when I opened it,and I couldnt have the house smelling like wood smoke.I think I would have kept that stove ,but at the time I didnt know of my chimney problems,and thought it was because I had a 8 inch pipe going a 6 inch flue.I always look up the chimney from the main floor thimble,so I never suspected the chimney to be clogged btween the cellar thimble and the main floor.When I took out the Thermo Control and sold it,I was looking up from down cellar and saw a half of one liner was cracked off and layed side ways across the chimney.No wonder smoke came out the door.at this point I was looking at a Pacific Energy Summit.A couple stove shops said it was the biggest heat output stove that they had,so I bought one.I have had this for two winters,and I am not impressed with it.It is probably fine for most people,but I am not very impressed.I have considered thinking of a wood furnace,but most dont work without power,and that can be a problem here on the coast.I have been on here lurking ,hoping to hear of a big wood stove,but they just dont seem big enough ,it must be the EPA regs wont allow a big stove or there isnt enough call for such a thing.I have been looking at the JA Roby ultimate,but I think I would have to drive to Canada to see one.With what I have spent on stoves since I built this house,I could bought alot of oil,but I like the wood heat,and with oil between 4 and 5 bucks a gallon,wood is the only affordable option.I want to buy something before winter to replace this Summit.If we had winters like we used to I would have to have two of these epa stoves.Good luck and Ill be watching

1,800 square foot two-story 1970s vintage Cape in Unity (a few miles outside of Belfast on the coast) . . . have heated with my Jotul Oslo very comfortably for the past three years . . . although the woodstove is located on the first floor and not in a basement . . . and no smell of smoke in the house.
 
Browning Bar has given you a good list of stoves that would fit your needs . . . the key will be the $1,200 price tag . . . it will be hard to find a large stove that "looks nice" at this price point . . . of course "looks" are all subjective and some folks really love the look of the Englander line which is where you would get the most bang for your buck. Cast iron and soapstone stoves often tend to be more pricey, but some folks like the more ornate look. Of course, most everyone can agree that Blaze Kings are just plain fugly ;) :) . . .

It also might bear repeating that burn times are also subjective . . . if you expect to load up the stove with wood and then 9 hours later come home or wake up to a fire roaring away you will be sadly disappointed with most stoves out there . . . but if you think of burn time as the time from when a woodstove is loaded up until there are large coals that you can toss some kindling or small splits on and have the fire relight then you will be happy with the larger woodstoves.
 
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