Enviro Windsor, does anyone have a PDF to the original brochure?

sfcomm · Sep 9, 2011

VCBurner said:
enviro said:

VCBurner said:

The guy called me this afternoon and said the stove was sold. So the search continues. Thanks for the info.

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"The guy called me this afternoon and said the stove was sold" or you didn't showup for the appointment you made?? honesty?? :exclaim:

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I apologize for the mix up. I received a text from someone saying thank you for your interest but the stove was sold. Among all the numbers I had called about stoves on craigslist I thought it was yours!! :-S I have been a member around here for a little while and it is not my custom to try to downgrade others on this site. I honestly thought the cell number attached to the text was yours!

For what it's worth, you seemed like a nice person on the phone and the deal we had agreed upon was more than good. The price was also very competitive for what's actually available as far as used pellet stoves. I did not mind the small crack on the glass as we discussed on the phone. I've been around stoves long enough to know that they are generally around $100 for a piece that big. I was surprised one of the members here quoted the glass as being $200. He must have been mistaking, but I sort of knew there was no way it would cost that much. I had no problems at all with the stove or anything we discussed. I posted this thread solely to get some input on the Windsor so I could make a more educated decision when I came down and saw you. I believe I mentioned to you on the phone I had been down at a dealer to look at the Empress model to which the Windsor had been the predecessor. There was not a word posted here aimed at disrespecting you at all. The text I received must have been someone else in NH with a similar number or at least area code, I was actually disapointed when I saw the text because I liked the stove! I have a hearth pad that would go well with it, the landlady approved and it is the perfect fit for us size and stylewise! Since you have not sold it my end of the deal still stands, I'll come down tomorrow day and give you the sum we discussed if you're still interested

Take care,
Chris

For what it's worth I am a nice guy and you explanation seemed reasonable. Wasn't offended at all by the thread itself, just offended just by the fact you didn't show. Then surprised to see I called and said the stove was sold! That having been said (more than enough times) the stove is still for sale if you really are still interested. The lay away terms and price we discussed are still valid. I am not around at all today (Fri) but will be around all weekend. Let me know if you'd like to come and when. I have a guy from Burlington, VT scheduled to come Tuesday to look at it, but he understands it could sell B4 then and that I'd let him know if it did.

sfcomm · Sep 9, 2011

DexterDay said:
I have made mis-haps and mistakes before with emails when I am trying to get or sell something off of Craiglist. I have mixed up emails before and there are Names attached to them.

Honest mistake??? What matters is the deal can still be done if both parties allow.

I dont think anyone over-stepped any boundries or called anyone anything.

Cant we all just get along and talk about stoves, pellets, chainsaws, and related hearth products. I hope it all comes out in the wash.

Enviro.. If you are selling the Enviro, you could still change your username (To a name more fitting that you like/use more often.nickname) or leave it. But if your gonna stick around for awhile. I would love to see you start a new thread in the "Gear" section of the Forum on your "4 Duramax's" in your Sig line...

VC burner. seems like it was takin good care of. Has extra parts.

Hope the 2 of you can come to an understanding. This is not the place to Vent Anger/Fustration. You have each others #'s. Enviro still wants to sell. VCburner still wants to buy. Problem solved.

Your absolutely right, this could have been just a mix up. The fact that he made contact shows that! I'll do my part to correct. Right again "Enviro" is a miserable user name, strictly done in haste and the "4 Duramaxs are another story! Wise person you are DexterDay

VCBurner · Sep 9, 2011

This is the reason I love this site. Even when something becomes an issue we can talk it over and resolve things. Thank you Dexter for serving as a mediator of sorts. Enviro, thanks for reconsidering and for posting on this thread. If you had not, I would have never known the stove was still available. I understand why you wold have been disappointed by the no show, I assure you it was unintentional.

Thank you all for the posts and input on the stove!

DexterDay · Sep 9, 2011

Bravo......... Well played by both parties. It all comes out in the wash.

VCburner, this is why I too love this Forum. Just by saying what you said and still offering the deal (both parties) says to me that you were honest about the call/text.

Enviro, good call on "calling him out". Had you not done it. Neither party would have known the whole story. I am still going to be on the lookout for the "4 Duramax's" Story. Duramax, Torque, or Diesel seem a more fitting user name. Considering the Copious amounts of Torque that you have. (Or leave it, I like Enviro. Still would love to get my hands on a discontinued Omega)

I apologize if either of you thought I was "digging" into your business.
I hope that the reconciliation continues. Looking forward to a "New Install" Thread. From possibly both of you.

Is the Englander installed yet Enviro??

VCBurner · Sep 10, 2011

Again, I find myself happy about a new stove. This time it is a totally different beast! I must thank Enviro for joinning the club and posting on this thread! What a small world we live in especially once the web is introduced into the mix. This site has once again proven to come in handy in unconventional ways. The Wndsor is every bit as beautiful as I thought it might be. It'll be a nice introduction to pellets, I hope will go as well as my experience with wood. The wood burning fit my lifestyle to a T. Now a new journey begins, learning new things and ways to heat alternatively. I welcome this new world with open arms and an open mind. Things could only fall into place now as they always have in the past. Thank you Enviro for making this deal possible, I look forward to seeing you in three weeks. Can't wait to fire it up!!

raybonz · Sep 11, 2011

VCBurner said:
Again, I find myself happy about a new stove. This time it is a totally different beast! I must thank Enviro for joinning the club and posting on this thread! What a small world we live in especially once the web is introduced into the mix. This site has once again proven to come in handy in unconventional ways. The Wndsor is every bit as beautiful as I thought it might be. It'll be a nice introduction to pellets, I hope will go as well as my experience with wood. The wood burning fit my lifestyle to a T. Now a new journey begins, learning new things and ways to heat alternatively. I welcome this new world with open arms and an open mind. Things could only fall into place now as they always have in the past. Thank you Enviro for making this deal possible, I look forward to seeing you in three weeks. Can't wait to fire it up!!

LOL Chris that was the most convoluted Craigslist transaction I have seen! My CDW sale had a few quirks until one guy contacted me that said he had the exact same stove.. He came by looked it over and commented I can see you took really good care of this stove.. He was happy as all his family members knew how to run this stove so he wanted to replace his (had a warped inner top so the bypass wouldn't close anymore) .. He offered $350.00 and without hesitation I accepted the offer.. He tried to give me $100.00 for a deposit and I refused and said a handshake worked for me.. We worked out a time he could pick it up and he brought along a few goons to get it into his truck and paid $350.00 in cash.. I'll miss the old girl as she served me well for 20+ years but it was time to move on.. From what I have read in this post Chris Enviro sounds like a standup guy and with those spare parts included you got a good deal.. Best wishes and I look fwd. to hearing about this pellet burner..Dexter you done well here too so feel good about that.. I still wonder why you pellet guys need a chainsaw though lol.. Gotta be hard to cut those lil pellets without chopping off your fingers!! As for splitting them I won't even go there!!

Ray

VCBurner · Sep 11, 2011

raybonz said:
LOL Chris that was the most convoluted Craigslist transaction I have seen! My CDW sale had a few quirks until one guy contacted me that said he had the exact same stove.. He came by looked it over and commented I can see you took really good care of this stove.. He was happy as all his family members knew how to run this stove so he wanted to replace his (had a warped inner top so the bypass wouldn't close anymore) .. He offered $350.00 and without hesitation I accepted the offer.. He tried to give me $100.00 for a deposit and I refused and said a handshake worked for me.. We worked out a time he could pick it up and he brought along a few goons to get it into his truck and paid $350.00 in cash.. I'll miss the old girl as she served me well for 20+ years but it was time to move on.. From what I have read in this post Chris Enviro sounds like a standup guy and with those spare parts included you got a good deal.. Best wishes and I look fwd. to hearing about this pellet burner..Dexter you done well here too so feel good about that.. I still wonder why you pellet guys need a chainsaw though lol.. Gotta be hard to cut those lil pellets without chopping off your fingers!! As for splitting them I won't even go there!! Ray

LMAO

:lol: I'll keep my chainsaw, just in case and the giant wedge maul! As far as the stove, there's no doubt in my mind it's in good shape. Enviro took great care of it and even fired it up for me to show it worked. He game me tips and will remain a good source of information even after the sale is complete I'm sure! My DW went for $400, can you believe it? That was probably the deal of the century as far as wood stoves are concerned. New SS cat, spare used ceramic cat and a stove that looks like it came off the showroom floor. All dusted off and cleaned inside and out. I even gave it a coat of polish before it got picked up! At a shop, it would go for about 1800 with an SS cat and a blower.

I'm certainly looking forward to picking up this beauty of a stove. Bringing it home will be a joy.

DexterDay · Sep 11, 2011

raybonz said:
VCBurner said:

Again, I find myself happy about a new stove. This time it is a totally different beast! I must thank Enviro for joinning the club and posting on this thread! What a small world we live in especially once the web is introduced into the mix. This site has once again proven to come in handy in unconventional ways. The Wndsor is every bit as beautiful as I thought it might be. It'll be a nice introduction to pellets, I hope will go as well as my experience with wood. The wood burning fit my lifestyle to a T. Now a new journey begins, learning new things and ways to heat alternatively. I welcome this new world with open arms and an open mind. Things could only fall into place now as they always have in the past. Thank you Enviro for making this deal possible, I look forward to seeing you in three weeks. Can't wait to fire it up!!

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LOL Chris that was the most convoluted Craigslist transaction I have seen! My CDW sale had a few quirks until one guy contacted me that said he had the exact same stove.. He came by looked it over and commented I can see you took really good care of this stove.. He was happy as all his family members knew how to run this stove so he wanted to replace his (had a warped inner top so the bypass wouldn't close anymore) .. He offered $350.00 and without hesitation I accepted the offer.. He tried to give me $100.00 for a deposit and I refused and said a handshake worked for me.. We worked out a time he could pick it up and he brought along a few goons to get it into his truck and paid $350.00 in cash.. I'll miss the old girl as she served me well for 20+ years but it was time to move on.. From what I have read in this post Chris Enviro sounds like a standup guy and with those spare parts included you got a good deal.. Best wishes and I look fwd. to hearing about this pellet burner..Dexter you done well here too so feel good about that.. I still wonder why you pellet guys need a chainsaw though lol.. Gotta be hard to cut those lil pellets without chopping off your fingers!! As for splitting them I won't even go there!!

Ray

Ray, It would be hard to cut up pellets with the Saw. Might have to find a smaller Bar and chain for my Top handle.. LOL

But the Saws are for the Wood Cutting for the 30 in the basement. Even without a Woodstove, everyone should have a Good Saw.
I love both the Wood stove and the Pellet stove equally. I try not to discriminate.

Chris. It will take a little getting used to, but I'm sure you'll love the New Stove.

Enviro, Your a Good Man doing what you did and still sticking with the original deal. Its Nice to still see people out there, that understand how the economy is. Good for you

Glad it all worked out.

raybonz · Sep 11, 2011

Yup Dexter I see you in the wood forums often..

Ray

sfcomm · Sep 11, 2011

So yes VCBurner came and purchased the Windsor yesterday. He got to see it fire and everything. After meeting Chris I immediately knew how this (missed appointment) really was a mixup. He's just an all around great guy. I'm looking forward to him coming to pick it up, so I have a chance to talk with him again! What a strange set of circumstances put this sale back together. Finding this thread and a pic of my stove sitting in my living room on a site (hearth.com) that I don't think I had ever visited B4. The thread with it's good/bad positive/negative comments about the stove, came complete with an intermediary (DexterDay) and everything :exclaim: So thanks for the assistance.

VCBurner · Sep 11, 2011

enviro said:
So yes VCBurner came and purchased the Windsor yesterday. He got to see it fire and everything. After meeting Chris I immediately knew how this (missed appointment) really was a mixup. He's just an all around great guy. I'm looking forward to him coming to pick it up, so I have a chance to talk with him again! What a strange set of circumstances put this sale back together. Finding this thread and a pic of my stove sitting in my living room on a site (hearth.com) that I don't think I had ever visited B4. The thread with it's good/bad positive/negative comments about the stove, came complete with an intermediary (DexterDay) and everything :exclaim: So thanks for the assistance.

That's the way things seem to go around here. Lots of different views and opinions, but most of the time things work out in the end. The most important thing is it brings us all together and knowledge is power. With the wealth of knowledge shared here we really do have an advantage over most other stove users/buyers who don't frequent the site.

Thank you for the kind words Enviro, I look forward to our next meeting as well. Also, hope we keep in touch after the sale. We have this great avenue here, why not use it?

Take care,

Chris

VCBurner · Oct 17, 2011

Ok, so the stove has come home. Thank you to Enviro for the kindness and understanding of my situation. Thanks to those who posted the opinions on this thread helping me to make a decision.
I'm now on the installation stage which I want to complete by the end of the week if possible. My questions are, I have just enough clearance to the sides of the stove to combustibles. There are 8" on both sides but I'm not convinced it'll be enough. Maybe it's just the lack of experience with pellet stoves. Is it ok to put the stove 8" away from a couch? Another question is what to use for air intake pipe. The manual states 2" steel, aluminum or copper may be used. I couldn't find any 2" aluminum flex at a plumbing and heating supplyer. However I may be able to get some 2" electrical metal tubing, which may be the answer, any ideas?

Oh yeah, here are some pics of it on a furniture dolly. I plan on running double wall from the back of the stove into a through the wall thimble and a 12" section outside with a termination cap. Another question is I have to go through a wall under the stairs first, before reaching the outside wall. The picture should explain things better. Can I cut a 6" circle out of the single sheetrock layer and put the double wall pipe through the center of it? The wall is simply a single layer of sheetrock that makes up a closet wall. I understand the section the pipe runs through has tyo be enclosed so the closet will have an additional wall put in as well.

VCBurner · Oct 17, 2011

Please help with these questions, I want to get it done before the weekend. Cold season is approaching soon, though we've been lucky around here so far.

SmokeyTheBear · Oct 17, 2011

Automotive parts place for the OAK material, if the electrical conduit is actually the right size that is also fine.

Are you planning on placing that stove where it is in that picture?

A bit later I'll download the install manual for that unit and read through it. I'm sure that other folks will chime in but it might attract the attention of others who have already installed that stove if you change the title of this thread to reflect the fact you have installation questions.

Please remember that the side clearance does not apply to the front of that stove.

Edited to add, what is the distance from the outside of the house to the wall behind the stove and would you please provide a picture of the outside where the vent would come through. I haven't found any mention on the maximum permitted horizontal run in the manual.

The 8" clearance is to any combustible so yes on that close to the couch. I'd be more concerned about folks on the couch getting closer than the 8" though.

BTW I found an install manual that Google has made a quick view of.

VCBurner · Oct 17, 2011

SmokeyTheBear said:
Automotive parts place for the OAK material, if the electrical conduit is actually the right size that is also fine.
Thanks smokey, I read some threads that mentioned this here too!
Are you planning on placing that stove where it is in that picture?
Yes, it'll go on a hearth pad of course. I plan on making it this week, one layer of 3/4" fire rated plywood, one layer of 5/8" cemment board, one solid 1/4" piece of slate, all sitting on top of a 2x4 platform and wrapped in oak and makore (an african mohogany like wood.)

A bit later I'll download the install manual for that unit and read through it. I'm sure that other folks will chime in but it might attract the attention of others who have already installed that stove if you change the title of this thread to reflect the fact you have installation questions.

Please remember that the side clearance does not apply to the front of that stove.
The baby jumper is actually 5' from the stove. Depth is lost in the picture. Nothing will be in front of the stove, I'm well acquainted with the front glass piece of a stove from my past experience with the wood stoves. :gulp: They do get hot, so I guess I'm overly cautious when it comes to clearance, hence my concern with the 8" clearance to combustibles the manual states.

Thanks for the post Smokey!

SmokeyTheBear · Oct 17, 2011

I added some stuff to the prior post. You got to it before I managed to hit the send button.

You'll likely have to come up with a pass through (thimble) for the inside wall as well I don't think that it would pass inspection if you had an open hole with a hot vent pipe through it. That horizontal also has to have a rise in it as well. There is a veiled warning in the installation manual that a horizontal install may not work under some conditions.

raybonz · Oct 17, 2011

Hi Chris!
That stove looks new! Very nice indeed! FYI 2" EMT is much closer to 2-1/2" than it is to 2" .. Unfortunately I am not qualified to speak on the flue pipe etc.. I suggest you try also posting in Hearth room as you may get help there too.. Running my T-5 right now and I love how it burns, really nice secondaries!! Good luck with your install I look forward to the pics! BTW the Woodstock Progress Hybrid was really awesome!! It was great to meet everyone..

Ray

Edit: I just reread Smokey's post and I think he is right.. I am wondering why you chose that location rather than along an outside wall.. That would seem to be a better location will make the flue pipe easy to install.. Personally I also would be afraid someone or something would touch that hot stove if the couch is that close.. You know how kids are, next thing you know they drop a pillow or a stuffed toy or worse themselves in that 8" space.. Just my 2 cents..

VCBurner · Oct 18, 2011

SmokeyTheBear said:
What is the distance from the outside of the house to the wall behind the stove and would you please provide a picture of the outside where the vent would come through. Ok, so there is a closet under the stairs, the dimension from inside to inside of the closet is 42" add to it the 3" of clearance from back of the stove to the wall, the exterior wall itself about 5" and a 12" section of pipe on the outside (recommended by the manual) you end up with a whoping 5'2" horizontal run before the termination cap! I haven't found any mention on the maximum permitted horizontal run in the manual.

The 8" clearance is to any combustible so yes on that close to the couch. I'd be more concerned about folks on the couch getting closer than the 8" though. My thoughts exactly, or objects such as an accent pillow falling off the thing. It is really close, so we may end up with a chair in that space instead. It would probably make it look better in the space and be safer at the same time. We just bought those couches and were hoping it would work. But once I got the stove in there and saw exactly how much space the 43" between the couch and the stairwell entrance really translated into it just looks crammed.
BTW I found an install manual that Google has made a quick view of. Thanks Smokey, I'll have to look it up! The previous owner emailed me the owner's manual on PDF as well as a couple of other manuals like the service manual. I also have the original owner's manual he gave me at the time of pick up! He was a really nice guy and sent me home with a bag of Freedom Fuels Pellets also! The "GUY" is a class act! :cheese:

VCBurner · Oct 18, 2011

raybonz said:
Hi Chris!
That stove looks new! Very nice indeed! Thanks Ray. FYI 2" EMT is much closer to 2-1/2" than it is to 2" .. I came up with the idea from speaking to a friend electrician and asking him if he had any input. He mentioned that 2" EMT is an oddball size on the outside dimension but the ID is 2" which is what this stove calls for. That is correct right, 2" ID on EMT?. Unfortunately I am not qualified to speak on the flue pipe etc.. I suggest you try also posting in Hearth room as you may get help there too.. You're right, I'll have to drop by with a link to the thread and see if I can get a bite from some of the guys who don't venture out of the Hearth room. Running my T-5 right now and I love how it burns, really nice secondaries!! Glad things are working out with the new stove Ray, she's a beauty! Good luck with your install I look forward to the pics! BTW the Woodstock Progress Hybrid was really awesome!! It was great to meet everyone..
I wanted to go badly, but I must admit, Horseneck Beach was a dream that weekend! You wish for days like those in July! I haven't been around here in a couple of weeks but I did look at some pics Denis posted (one of you with Gamma and Mr. Gamma I believe,) it looked like a good time. Maybe next year I'll be able to come up. I bet it was nice to put a face to the avatars :lol: I'm still in love with those Woodstocks, and what a bargain with those discount prices! The Progress looks fantastic, but the specs so far are even more spectacular than its looks! Those Fireviews are still stunning to me.

Ray

Edit: I just reread Smokey's post and I think he is right.. I am wondering why you chose that location rather than along an outside wall.. That location is the only one that would work unfortunatelly. The adjascent wall to the left is loaded with windows and the front door as well as the baseboard heat. That would seem to be a better location will make the flue pipe easy to install.. Personally I also would be afraid someone or something would touch that hot stove if the couch is that close.. You know how kids are, next thing you know they drop a pillow or a stuffed toy or worse themselves in that 8" space.. Just my 2 cents..I hear you Ray! I've already started discussing a new chair for that space with the wife, asking what she likes for chairs and doing some research online. Out of the chairs we saw today we both agreed on two types, one was a wingback high leg chair that looks like an antique but is also a recliner. That would please me the most, as it would probably become my new recliner right next to the stove! I don't know the price though, but it probably isn't cheap, coming from a local "Templeton Furniture" store. The other is a simpler rocker/ottoman combo with plush cushions and a small price tag from the baby furniture section in Gardner Wallmart. The latter wold most likely fit in the budget a lot better considering we just got the couch and love seat that are in the picture three weeks ago.

Thanks for posting again my friend!

VCBurner · Oct 18, 2011

SmokeyTheBear said:
I added some stuff to the prior post. You got to it before I managed to hit the send button.

You'll likely have to come up with a pass through (thimble) for the inside wall as well I don't think that it would pass inspection if you had an open hole with a hot vent pipe through it. That horizontal also has to have a rise in it as well. There is a veiled warning in the installation manual that a horizontal install may not work under some conditions.

I saw the statement Smokey, where they say some instalations may need a vertical run of 3-5' in order to help with natural draft of the stove to make it work. I may find myself getting a vertical run of double wall 3" to attach to the outside with a clean out T. I'll have to give it a shot with the horizontal run even if I have to give it a rise on its way out. I stopped by the local Enviro dealer today but he is closed on Mondays and Tuesdays, so it'll have to wait until Wednesday. He may have some input on the particulars of the Windsor also.

raybonz · Oct 18, 2011

VCBurner said:
raybonz said:

Hi Chris!
That stove looks new! Very nice indeed! Thanks Ray. FYI 2" EMT is much closer to 2-1/2" than it is to 2" .. I came up with the idea from speaking to a friend electrician and asking him if he had any input. He mentioned that 2" EMT is an oddball size on the outside dimension but the ID is 2" which is what this stove calls for. That is correct right, 2" ID on EMT?. Unfortunately I am not qualified to speak on the flue pipe etc.. I suggest you try also posting in Hearth room as you may get help there too.. You're right, I'll have to drop by with a link to the thread and see if I can get a bite from some of the guys who don't venture out of the Hearth room. Running my T-5 right now and I love how it burns, really nice secondaries!! Glad things are working out with the new stove Ray, she's a beauty! Good luck with your install I look forward to the pics! BTW the Woodstock Progress Hybrid was really awesome!! It was great to meet everyone..
I wanted to go badly, but I must admit, Horseneck Beach was a dream that weekend! You wish for days like those in July! I haven't been around here in a couple of weeks but I did look at some pics Denis posted (one of you with Gamma and Mr. Gamma I believe,) it looked like a good time. Maybe next year I'll be able to come up. I bet it was nice to put a face to the avatars :lol: I'm still in love with those Woodstocks, and what a bargain with those discount prices! The Progress looks fantastic, but the specs so far are even more spectacular than its looks! Those Fireviews are still stunning to me.

Ray

Edit: I just reread Smokey's post and I think he is right.. I am wondering why you chose that location rather than along an outside wall.. That location is the only one that would work unfortunatelly. The adjascent wall to the left is loaded with windows and the front door as well as the baseboard heat. That would seem to be a better location will make the flue pipe easy to install.. Personally I also would be afraid someone or something would touch that hot stove if the couch is that close.. You know how kids are, next thing you know they drop a pillow or a stuffed toy or worse themselves in that 8" space.. Just my 2 cents..I hear you Ray! I've already started discussing a new chair for that space with the wife, asking what she likes for chairs and doing some research online. Out of the chairs we saw today we both agreed on two types, one was a wingback high leg chair that looks like an antique but is also a recliner. That would please me the most, as it would probably become my new recliner right next to the stove! I don't know the price though, but it probably isn't cheap, coming from a local "Templeton Furniture" store. The other is a simpler rocker/ottoman combo with plush cushions and a small price tag from the baby furniture section in Gardner Wallmart. The latter wold most likely fit in the budget a lot better considering we just got the couch and love seat that are in the picture three weeks ago.

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Thanks for posting again my friend!

Scroll to bottom for EMT dimensions and yes 2" EMT is close to 2" I.D.

http://home4c.com/conduit.htm

Ray

DonD · Oct 18, 2011

How tall is the closet? Could you put the stove in the corner (under the picture in your 3rd pic) and run pipe up the wall and out across the ceiling of the closet? The corner might be a nice spot for the stove and it would get you some vertical rise.

SmokeyTheBear · Oct 18, 2011

VCBurner said:
SmokeyTheBear said:

I added some stuff to the prior post. You got to it before I managed to hit the send button.

You'll likely have to come up with a pass through (thimble) for the inside wall as well I don't think that it would pass inspection if you had an open hole with a hot vent pipe through it. That horizontal also has to have a rise in it as well. There is a veiled warning in the installation manual that a horizontal install may not work under some conditions.

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I saw the statement Smokey, where they say some instalations may need a vertical run of 3-5' in order to help with natural draft of the stove to make it work. I may find myself getting a vertical run of double wall 3" to attach to the outside with a clean out T. I'll have to give it a shot with the horizontal run even if I have to give it a rise on its way out. I stopped by the local Enviro dealer today but he is closed on Mondays and Tuesdays, so it'll have to wait until Wednesday. He may have some input on the particulars of the Windsor also.

You may have misunderstood my remark about the rise, it is a very small towards the vent rise that must be in every horizontal pellet vent run. I'll have to look it up it isn't much but under no circumstance should any pellet vent run be level or downhill.

I think the issue the manual was making reference too was back pressure, it can cause two problems overheating the combustion blower and allowing smoke to flow backwards and out the air intake.

VCBurner · Oct 18, 2011

raybonz said:
Scroll to bottom for EMT dimensions and yes 2" EMT is close to 2" I.D.

Ray

Thanks for the link Ray, that just might work. I asked my father in law to get me a 6' section of pipe from the job site and have the guys bend a 90 on one end. This way, all I'll have to do is put it on the stove with a 2" connector and put a screen at the end with another connector attached to secure the screen in place. At least one problem solved, maybe. You just never know untill it's done, I'm not cutting any wholes in the wall yet! :lol: I'm doing the hearth pad first and then after seeing the stove and pad in place I'll decide what really will happen as far as the couch and cutting up the walls. Most likely a chair will replace the loveseat and the stove will have more room to breath and heat!

SmokeyTheBear · Oct 18, 2011

The recommended rise on a horizontal run is 1/4" per foot of pipe.

Enviro Windsor, does anyone have a PDF to the original brochure?

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