Osburn 2300 fancy Drolet Myriad

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Woodscout

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Sep 19, 2011
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Eastern PA.
Hello All !
I just joined this forum today. Guess that makes me a newbie.
I will be purchasing a new wood stove to (help) heat my 2400 s.f. house. However, in my research, I found a stove that is very similar to the one I'm interested in (Osburn 2300).
Knowing that the Osburn 2300 and the Drolet Myriad are SBI name brands. I have found that the Osburn 2300 is really a Drolet Myriad dressed up (fancy) and approximately $900 dollars more in price (Drolet Myriad about $900 from Northern Tool). Given the VERY similar specs between the both, do you think its just cosmetics that gives these stoves such a big difference in price or am I missing something? Also, that Napoleon 1900P looks real good.
 
Hey Woodscout,

Welcome to the forum. I have the Osburn 2400 insert. It's a great stove. Fyrebug, one of the members here works for SBI. He may be able to answer your question for you. It may help to search the reviews section of the site and see what others have said about the two stoves. Hope that helps.
 
I believe we've had a thread on this before. Yes SBI and other MFG use the same firebox for various models/brands.

The reason for this? It's very expensive and time consuming to design, prototype, test, certify (EPA, UL etc..) a firebox. So while a firebox might be identical things will change for each brand. For ex. Osburn will have refractory bricks (vs pumice), top plate steel might be thicker, More customizable look, different baffle system, better warranty, blower might be included etc...

Think of it this way, GM makes a vast multitude of car models across various brands. However they may have only a few engines for all these models. They tune these engines differently for all the models.

For wood stoves, the performance will stay the same across the fire box no matter the brand. Therefore, it is up to the consumer to decide what is important. Is value/Lower cost fairly important? Then Drolet will fit the bill and it is typically to be found in a Big Box store where the customer base are more cost conscious. Are looks and all the other things a brand like Osbun offers take on more importance? This brand is to be found at specialty dealers where your will typically receive more support & install service.

Both brand will serve you well.
 
Had a chance to visit my friends bud who had one in a 2300 sf old farm house (about 72 years old) heats that old house (& 2nd floor bed rms.) very nicely. I was impressed. Also got my first mini class (being a newbie and all) from him on tips, do's and don'ts with the Napoleon 1900P and asked a lot of questions. Guys been using wood stoves for 45+ years. Nice family, nice guy, Enjoyed it,... Interesting thing is that, his Napoleon stove was purchased to replace an old Harmon wood stove.
 
I have an Osburn 2300 and it throws heat like you can't imagine. I heat 2900 sqft with it. Stove is in the basement of a 2 story bungalow. It has a HUGE glass window in a cast iron door (which most epa stoves don't) and a nice bypass damper to prevent smoke roll out when reloading. It's a little

I know tons of guys who have been heating with wood for 20-40 years. However, none of them took my advice and came to this forum when it came to learning how to use EPA stoves. They complain all the time that new stoves don't heat properly, bla bla bla. I try giving them tips and they never want to listen!

You could look at the Osburn 2400 which would give a good run for it's money to the Napoleon 1900.

I didn't think there was more than 5 wood stove companies before I came on this forum. Now I don't have enough fingers and toes to count them all...

Andrew
 
Thanks Swedishchef

I'm leaning toward the Napoleon, I haven't purchased a stove yet. I do like the drolets Ooops!,.... I mean Osburn 2300 bypass, its one of the only factors I'm kinda hung-up on.
I'm no engineer by any means but its purpose seems to be very useful and effective. Seems like the Napoleon should have one, I guess thats what the Vortex thing is all about.
Thanks again for the info. Everyones been a big help. decisions, decisions, decisions....
 
Something to consider when making the purchase: Napoleon notoriously have poor customer service with home owners. They only work directly with dealers. I had a napoleon and they completely ignored me.
 
Swedishchef

My wife says (based on your description about heating your house - above) she bets that your Osburn 2300 puts out more heat if not equal to that the Napoleon 1900P.
I'm somewhat inclineded to scratch my head on that one just for a moment, given that the specs are somewhat simular. Comments?....
 
Yeah if you do a search of the forum of Napoleon customer service- you'll see I'm not the only one who had that experience. But if you have a good dealer that may be a non issue.
 
Woodscout: Unfortunately I can't comment on the 1900. I don't have one and I don't know anybody that has one. DaFattKidd mentioned that customer service can be an issue but if you buy it from a good dealer it shouldn't be a problem.

I can tell you, however, that I love the bypass damper. I some times have negative pressure (basement is well sealed) and have a downdraft in my chimney. I open a window nearby for 5 minutes to let the pressure settle. I open the damper, stack the wood, light a newspaper torch and place it near the back. The heat goes straight up the pipes with the damper open and helps warm the flue.

HOwever this year I will have my air exchanger installed (in the basement) and will put a positive pressure downstairs to help prevent this. My chimney goes straight through my foundation wall and up the outside of the house: not an ideal setup for good draft.

Here is a picture of my house setup. The red dot is where the stove would be located (downstairs) so it gives an idea how it heats.

My wife some times hates the stove because it heats too much. She doesn't like sleeping in a hot bedroom and when it's 24 degree in the bedroom, 23 degrees upstairs and 29 degrees downstairs, she doesn't go to bed with a big smile but I do! :) We end up opening the bedroom window when it's -20 outside!

Andrew
 

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Swedishchef

Wow!.. THANKS for the detailed info. I appreciate it (nice house). At the present, the choice is between the Osburn 2300 (wife really likes) and the Nap 1900P (But I've got to write the check) you can kinda see my dilemma, its not just stove specs involve here. This forum is definately the place to be concerning info. on wood stoves. VERY helpful knowledgeable people . Thanks again.
 
The folks that have had the 1900 have been very pleased with them. It is a good heater. Likewise with the 2300. You won't go wrong with either choice, but if your wife has a preference, it's worth considering and having her on board with the decision. One thing to check will be clearances for the installation. Make sure the stove you choice works in the installation location without issues. And remember that it doesn't hurt to exceed minimum clearance specs. It's preferable if possible.
 
If you want an even bigger osburn heater, there's the 2400. I found it was simply too wide for my liking, I prefered the 2300.

I bet the 1900 is a damn good stove. As a matter of fact, I almost bought a 1450 but then was leaning towards a 1900 and in the end got the Osburn 2300.

Napoleon are right up there with North American stove manufacturers.

BeGreen is right: try to exceed minimum clearances. After all, it's a MINIMUM. Most of all, happy wife, happy life!

Andrew
 
What does the Osburn baffle look like? Is it similar to PE stoves, I know it's stainless. I'd take a good stainless baffle over the ceramic board any day of the week. The bypass is another great feature and if your wife approves of the Osburn I think it should be a done deal. The stove is going to pay for itself eventually anyways.
 
Swedishchef, could you take a shot of the Osburn baffle and post it?
 
Woodscout said:
Swedishchef

My wife says (based on your description about heating your house - above) she bets that your Osburn 2300 puts out more heat if not equal to that the Napoleon 1900P.
I'm somewhat inclineded to scratch my head on that one just for a moment, given that the specs are somewhat simular. Comments?....


They are about the same stove. Claimed firebox sizes is 3.0 for the Nap and 3.1 for the Osburn. Should burn about the same. Pretty much it would come down to the little difference; visual appeal, cost, dealer location, etc... some things are more important to some buyers.
 
BeGreen,
As requested, here's a picture of the Osburn 2300 baffle. My photography skills are not the greatest, especially at 6 am!
You can tell it's stainless steel and is not removable (from what I can see....)

Andrew
 

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Wow!.. nice, one thing, the firebricks go 1/2 the way up? - is that what I see?.
Not thinking about it at the time, I had a chance to look at the underside (baffle area) of the Napoleon 1900
but didn't, wonder what that looks like. Oh well, I'm not driving all the way out there again just to find out.
 
Is there an isulation blanket above or inside the baffle?
 
I honestly don't have a clue if there was one or not. It was installed last year and I never noticed if there was one. However, I plan on sweeping in the next few weeks and will find out! BUt something tells me that there's none....the baffle is some kind of heat resistant to 2100F type baffle. Then again, there must be one otherwise the stovetop would overheat!
Andrew
 
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