There are lots of media types that are not silica sand. Sand blasting is old school, now it's "medai blasting". Everything from nut shells to plastic beads. Still, it will make a mess nomatter where you do it.
rdust said:john_alaska said:I got a few estimates between $1500-$2000.
They do realize you're painting a wood stove and not a car right? It's not like they have body work to do, you can probably strip it with a chemical stripper if you don't have a way to sand or media blast it. I'd try to get BK to toss me a few bucks to cover the supply's and some for my time and call it a day.
Is the stove located in a family/living room or a basement? If it's an unfinished basement you may not even have to move the stove out depending on where the issues are.
john_alaska said:Did I tell you the dealer did almost $300 of damage to my handrail and door when the delivered the Blaze King.. And get this, they charged me a $200 delivery charge on top of that.
BeGreen said:Got pictures of the issues?
john_alaska said:Ya, being realistic I am just going to eat the losses and live with a defective stove. Very disappointed it has to come to this, but it does show you how poor Blaze King and the Fairbanks local dealer treat their customers. I have giving the dealer and Blaze King every opportunity to make this right, but they just kept playing these games.
john_alaska said:Well in Fairbanks stuff is expensive.. Shipping a 500 pound stove here is spendy..But ya you should get a quality product for what you pay for. It is not uncommon that distributors send their junk up here. But I am not going to let Blaze King get away with this especially after they admitted their flaw in panting and I know several others that have the same problem here..
Highbeam said:There is no equal to that BK King. There is a reason they dominate in AK. I suspect that there are two sides to this story but a bad dealer can really cause trouble.
Why not buy another BK from a better dealer? Fairbanks isn't a small town and there are surely more dealers. Unless, that is, you have sworn off BKs forever. Is that the case?
No other stove makers use thermostats. It is a peave of mine. Very few use cat converters and almost none of them make large stoves with cat converters. You can have a small cat stove without a stat or you can get a larger non-cat.
Have you considered the wood furnace route? Without details about your home we don't know what size of stove you need. The BK King with its low output can be put in a mobile home and do fine. Before anybody suggests alternative stoves we need to know what you're heating.
bogydave said:I have a good relationship with the local BK dealer here, just N of Wasilla.
I've heard of some complaints in the Fairbanks area about one of the local wood stove stores, from friends there. They plan to upgrade their stove, I praised BK stoves &
suggested they consider it if they upgrade. Hope they don't get your dealer if they do.
Sounds to be a local dealer issue. Hope BK steps up & helps resolve the issues.
Sandblast & repaint should be covered in the warranty & not be that big of a job in Fairbanks.
Sure hope you get an equatable solution. Having a dealer issue is one thing, but it would be interesting to hear BK's side of the story.
I'm with "rdust": If I felt it needed repainted, I'd DIY & then continue to work with BK to recover some of the costs you put out to do it.
If it's not a "defective stove", just a "defective" paint job.
It sure puts out heat & your gonna need the heat soon.
Good luck.
john_alaska said:Dave, what is the store name in Wasilla?? If I drag the stove back to the Fairbanks store, I will come down to Wasilla and pick up a new one. Tell your friends to do the same, because there is only one store that carries Blaze King in Fairbanks, and they offer no support for their products.. Mostly hire cheap labor to do service work at night... My business with the Fairbanks store is over with... thanks
bogydave said:I have a good relationship with the local BK dealer here, just N of Wasilla.
I've heard of some complaints in the Fairbanks area about one of the local wood stove stores, from friends there. They plan to upgrade their stove, I praised BK stoves &
suggested they consider it if they upgrade. Hope they don't get your dealer if they do.
Sounds to be a local dealer issue. Hope BK steps up & helps resolve the issues.
Sandblast & repaint should be covered in the warranty & not be that big of a job in Fairbanks.
Sure hope you get an equatable solution. Having a dealer issue is one thing, but it would be interesting to hear BK's side of the story.
I'm with "rdust": If I felt it needed repainted, I'd DIY & then continue to work with BK to recover some of the costs you put out to do it.
If it's not a "defective stove", just a "defective" paint job.
It sure puts out heat & your gonna need the heat soon.
Good luck.
bogydave said:john_alaska said:Dave, what is the store name in Wasilla?? If I drag the stove back to the Fairbanks store, I will come down to Wasilla and pick up a new one. Tell your friends to do the same, because there is only one store that carries Blaze King in Fairbanks, and they offer no support for their products.. Mostly hire cheap labor to do service work at night... My business with the Fairbanks store is over with... thanks
bogydave said:I have a good relationship with the local BK dealer here, just N of Wasilla.
I've heard of some complaints in the Fairbanks area about one of the local wood stove stores, from friends there. They plan to upgrade their stove, I praised BK stoves &
suggested they consider it if they upgrade. Hope they don't get your dealer if they do.
Sounds to be a local dealer issue. Hope BK steps up & helps resolve the issues.
Sandblast & repaint should be covered in the warranty & not be that big of a job in Fairbanks.
Sure hope you get an equatable solution. Having a dealer issue is one thing, but it would be interesting to hear BK's side of the story.
I'm with "rdust": If I felt it needed repainted, I'd DIY & then continue to work with BK to recover some of the costs you put out to do it.
If it's not a "defective stove", just a "defective" paint job.
It sure puts out heat & your gonna need the heat soon.
Good luck.
http://www.alaskafireplace.com/
Wasilla store,
Your are PO'd if your gonna drive 350 miles. It is a beautiful drive though.
Watch out for Caribou this time of the year around Healy & Cantwell
1 other thought, have you thought about the pellet stoves? I heard there is a new pellet plant in Fairbanks.
Political solution, write your state reps, lets get a gas line
http://www.elections.alaska.gov/vi_eo_state_dist.php
Don't use my name, you may get black-balled" but at least mine "usually" answer my emails.
Maybe one of these days, our state politicians will get with the program & get an "in-state gas line"
That would solve Fairbanks winter air quality issues !! & many other areas energy needs also.
Again
Good luck
bsj425 said:john_alaska said:Well in Fairbanks stuff is expensive.. Shipping a 500 pound stove here is spendy..But ya you should get a quality product for what you pay for. It is not uncommon that distributors send their junk up here. But I am not going to let Blaze King get away with this especially after they admitted their flaw in panting and I know several others that have the same problem here..
Let me guess Woodway is jacking you around? They are the reason I am just now getting to my install instead of the summer and why I didnt end up with the princess their customer service was enough to turn me away I spent my money elsewhere. Check out Wholesale distrubutors on 30th that is where I got mine they have some nice quadrafires in there with cats and 8'' flues dont think they are controlled by temp tho.
bsj425 said:Highbeam said:There is no equal to that BK King. There is a reason they dominate in AK. I suspect that there are two sides to this story but a bad dealer can really cause trouble.
Why not buy another BK from a better dealer? Fairbanks isn't a small town and there are surely more dealers. Unless, that is, you have sworn off BKs forever. Is that the case?
No other stove makers use thermostats. It is a peave of mine. Very few use cat converters and almost none of them make large stoves with cat converters. You can have a small cat stove without a stat or you can get a larger non-cat.
Have you considered the wood furnace route? Without details about your home we don't know what size of stove you need. The BK King with its low output can be put in a mobile home and do fine. Before anybody suggests alternative stoves we need to know what you're heating.
You obviously never been to Fairbanks while it is the "second biggest city in AK" it is small. And we only have 3 woodstove dealers only 1 of which sells BK next closest dealer is in the next town over.... 357 miles away and 7 hour drive.
john_alaska said:I have been running a BKK Parlor with good results since last year. Manufacture flaw on 40 of the stoves resulted in paint peeling which the manufacture admitted was due to their error. I ended up hiring my attorney to start legal action.
After a year of BS with the seller they have agreed to a full refund and will take my stove away, but will not replace.. Problem is my old stove is gone and it is winter here in Fairbanks and the stove is running.
I cannot just have it removed with 6 cords of seasoned wood in the yard, and oil running at $3.95/gal.
Any recommendations on another similar size stove, EPA rated, 8†flue and thermostatically controlled.
bsj425 said:I just flat didnt like the sales people I delt with I delt with 2 of them on 2 seperate occasions. The first time I got frustrated and left and decided to come back another day and hopefully have someone else help me. Since It was my first stove purchase I of course had a few questions that I thought were relavent such as the burn times difference between single wall double wall etc. And they talked to me like I was an idiot the first lady literally asked me "did you not do any research before coming to look for a stove do you even know what you want" that is when I turned around and walked out. Of course I did research just not on the brand of pipe that they sell. The second time back the guy that helped me was too busy texting on his phone instead of helping me. I will never go back there.
AKSHADOW said:bsj425 said:I just flat didnt like the sales people I delt with I delt with 2 of them on 2 seperate occasions. The first time I got frustrated and left and decided to come back another day and hopefully have someone else help me. Since It was my first stove purchase I of course had a few questions that I thought were relavent such as the burn times difference between single wall double wall etc. And they talked to me like I was an idiot the first lady literally asked me "did you not do any research before coming to look for a stove do you even know what you want" that is when I turned around and walked out. Of course I did research just not on the brand of pipe that they sell. The second time back the guy that helped me was too busy texting on his phone instead of helping me. I will never go back there.
How do you like your Heatilator? I've never seen those before but checked out their website. I've talked to the Wholesale Distributor people about Harmons before and they were very helpful and friendly.
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