I need help with ID'ing a couple of trees - picture heavy

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s.recker

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Aug 24, 2011
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I've cut a bunch of these trees for firewood but am not sure what they are, I believe they first few pics are a type of elm. This is some of the wettest wood I've come across, the stumps will puddle water on top after cutting. The bark on the trunk is deeply furrowed and after drying for couple of months the bark comes off very easily.

Pic of the leaves.
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Sprout with alternating leaves. Notice the chunk on the right - deep furrow on the bark.
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Smaller branch. Some of the trees do not have as dark of heart wood.
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This is another tree I picked up. One guy I showed the pictures to said it was a hackberry, but another said it was a choke cherry.
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Any help would be appreciated. I can get at least for truck loads of the first type of tree, I hope this stuff burns well because I got about 4 cords of it.
 
Pics 4 & 5 are cherry, not sure of the other tree. Possibly Mulberry? Cherry burns well and is a good score.
 
I was thinking myself that second tree was probably cherry, but I am not good with tree ID's, yet.


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The first tree I posted I see growing all over the Waterloo/Cedar Falls, Ia area.
 
4 and 5 look like wild cherry. Some call it choke cherry around here, but in other areas choke cherry is more of a bush than a tree.
Burns decent. Some don't like the smell of it when its green.

First three do look like elm, maybe slippery elm ? Not much elm by me, although it does grow around here.
 
I was pretty confused at first, but I think jatoxico is on to something. The first tree does look a lot like Mulberry. Mulberry usually has some miten-shaped and three-lobed leaves, but all the ones in the picture are unlobed. That is fine, and probably somewhere on the tree are some lobed leaves. Mulberry is great firewood, very dense, burns hot. I think the wood turns color (gets darker) after cutting, so maybe that explains why you see different shades of heartwood color from the same tree.

The last tree is Black Cherry. Some people call it Choke Cherry, but there are several other species of wild cherry including one species officially called Choke Cherry. The other cherries tend to be small trees, Black Cherry is a pretty large tree. Cherry is good firewood - it ain't Mulberry, but pretty good nonetheless.
 
Pics 1-3: Siberian elm
Pics 4-5: Black cherry

99.5% sure, Just cut some of each over the weekend in Southern MN.

Siberian elm splits much easier than american elm, and it's a good thing the bark falls off because it produces a lot of ash. I think the btu content is on par with american elm. Give it a good year to season but if split small it will season pretty quickly. A very invasive weed type tree, I've got so much where I'm cutting that I don't bother with anything under 6" diameter - just throw it on the brush pile.

I've also got mulberry at the same site, the wood pictured by the OP is not mulberry, mulberry wood is brite yellow when just cut and the bark is not as deeply furrowed.
 
3fordasho said:
Pics 1-3: Siberian elm
Pics 4-5: Black cherry

99.5% sure, Just cut some of each over the weekend in Southern MN.

Siberian elm splits much easier than american elm, and it's a good thing the bark falls off because it produces a lot of ash. I think the btu content is on par with american elm. Give it a good year to season but if split small it will season pretty quickly. A very invasive weed type tree, I've got so much where I'm cutting that I don't bother with anything under 6" diameter - just throw it on the brush pile.

I've also got mulberry at the same site, the wood pictured by the OP is not mulberry, mulberry wood is brite yellow when just cut and the bark is not as deeply furrowed.

I think you are 100% right.
 
Not sure what the 1st tree is but it is definitely NOT Mulberry. 2nd tree is for sure Black Cherry.
 
The first is a elm, but the leaces look to be that of a Chineses elm, but the wood doesn't. when you split it does it smell like Black Licorase and the inside of the bark real slick & slippery? Then its probably Slippery Elm (Red Elm)

But the second is definetly not Mulberry, but the bark looks like that of the cherry tree that I got this summer. Plus it looks like there are some cherries in the one pic.

All good wood, get her split and your on your way for next year wood supply.
 
I know the first is not a mulberry. I know it is not because I have a neighbor across the street with about 10 of these trees and never seen any berries or any bird droppings on my car to indicate otherwise.

The first tree, under the bark is real slimmey when green, and when the bark comes off it is black and smelly. From the descriptions on this board I've read, I am thinking it is Siberian or Chinese elm. I haven't burned any yet, hopefully it will be decent. I was told red elm is hard to come by and I see this stuff growing all over town.

I only had a pickup load of the second type of tree, but it is different than some cherry I got from a friend last year which he told me was black cherry. This cherry is much lighter in color and I think not quite as dense.

This is my second season burning and I had to buy some wood to get enough for this winter (which was not as dry as the seller claimed, not too bad though). I burnt some wood the previous owners left behind last winter, but only had enough for about 7 weeks of 24hr burning. I have 2.5 cords put up for this winter but I think I am going to be a cord short. I didn't get started cutting until June of this year and everything I got is still too wet. I have 4 full cords c/s/s for next year so I should be good next year. I want to get to the point were all my wood seasons for 2 years before I burn it.

I can get another 4 pickup loads of the elm. A business about 2 miles away is clearing a lot and I've taken 6 pickup loads out of there already. I like this stuff because it is close, splits easily by hand (mostly), and trees are mostly all trunk.
 
lukem said:
3fordasho said:
Pics 1-3: Siberian elm
Pics 4-5: Black cherry

99.5% sure, Just cut some of each over the weekend in Southern MN.

Siberian elm splits much easier than american elm, and it's a good thing the bark falls off because it produces a lot of ash. I think the btu content is on par with american elm. Give it a good year to season but if split small it will season pretty quickly. A very invasive weed type tree, I've got so much where I'm cutting that I don't bother with anything under 6" diameter - just throw it on the brush pile.

I've also got mulberry at the same site, the wood pictured by the OP is not mulberry, mulberry wood is brite yellow when just cut and the bark is not as deeply furrowed.

I think you are 100% right.

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I'd keep getting free wood as long as you can. It sounds like Siberian Elm is pretty decent wood (fortunately it is pretty rare here, but we have plenty of other invasive species to choose from) and even if it wasn't very good it is a lot better than running out of wood. Too bad I was wrong and it isn't Mulberry!
 
I believe the first is Siberian elm. I came across one last year and posted on here for some help ID. Siberian elm it is. I passed on the tree because I would have had to drop it right next to a street that is a feeder to the highway and it's growing on a steep bank. Once I heard Elm I pretty much lost interest. I've split American Elm so I've no interest in any Elm, but it's good to know your doing well with it. So if I come across it again and it's easy pickin's I'll grab some. Nice to know it will dry quickly too. American Elm takes too long and with the space I have, I need a quick drying wood. Nice score though, and as for the Cherry, I don't get too often but when I do I really enjoy it. Good firewood.
 
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