Englander 25 igniter tip not red hot

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gjr1027

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Oct 13, 2011
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Maine
I just hooked up a 2005 Englander 25 about a week ago, the first time I hit the start button it fired right up, 2 days later, it E2 on the first start up try, I cleaned the pellets out of the burn pot and tried again and it started. I saw smoke within 5 min. or so then some sparks and then fire, now, 3 days later, the igniter wont get hot on the tip and it wont ignite the pellets. I touched the housing that the igniter is in in the back of the stove and almost burned my finger. After it cooled I took the igniter out and hooked it to a lamp cord and within 10 seconds 80% of the shaft was cheery red but not the tip but I unplugged it figuring it was fine. I then installed it back in and now its on its 3rd restart and nothing, housing is super hot but tip wont get red hot. I took the air hose out and that was clear, also stuck a nail where the air tube goes onto and that was clear. Anybody have any ideas?
Thanks.
 
My Englander igniter gets red hot at the tip. I`d have to think if it didn`t , the burnpot would be overflowing before the pellets ignited.
Personally I think electric igniters are dog slow anyway so I usually light manually.
So my guess is you need to replace the igniter.
 
x3. Replace the ignitor.

Ignitors can go bad in sections, and that's what it sounds like yours did. 6 years on an ignitor is pretty good.
 
importance is airflow not proximity , if the igniter heats up but tip doesnt its because you do not have enough airflow passing through the chamber to the pellets. make sure that the igniter tip has at least 3/32 (fat 1/8th) of space between the tip of the rod and the back side of the hole , this should allow enough air to pass through to carry the heat to the pellets. it can be too far back but it cannot be too close for it to light consistantly
 
Thanks for the tip but I did take the igniter out and hooked it to a lamp cord and plugged it in for almost 3 minutes and the tip just would not get cherry red. By tip , I mean the last inch or so. From the collar up to about the last inch was bright , cheery red in about 30 seconds or so. Does it sound like the igniter is shot to you? I did make sure it was set back from the burn pot about an 1/8 of an inch but still nothing.
Thanks
 
actually the igniter tip will not get red in a static test , the heating part is in the rear of the element and the flow of air past it drags the heat forward. this is what makes the tip red. if the tip isnt getting red when installed its because we are not getting enough air passing through the igniter sleeve. try this , in the back of the stove where the igniter sleeve is there is a hose connected to it , try removing the hose at the igniter and see if the tip gets hotter in a normal startup. if it does then just leave the hose disconnected or reconnect and disconnect the other end at the air intake pipe and leave it drawing air out of the back of the stove
 
That is what the service guy from Englander told me to do. I did disconnect the hose from the fresh air intake side and it did work once, then the next day when I went to start it up it didn't start, I tried 3 start up cycles and nothing. I made sure the burn pot and igniter hole were clean and clear but it wouldn't start. Do you think disconnecting the hose right at the igniter housing would give it more air flow and is it safe to leave that hole open without the hose on it? Also, in normal circumstances, does the igniter cause problems like this? I always clean the ashes out of the burn pot before restarting and I shop vac out the burn pot area and clean the burn plate, etc. twice a week and I only use the stove from early morning till around 11am just to take the chill out of the house.
Thank you for the help.
 
I removed the hose from the igniter side and it fired right up . I've lit 3 fires since I took it off and it works great. Thanks. I do have 1 ?, is it ok to leave the hose off of that intake bib on the igniter housing, ie: is there any heat problem or chance of a flame coming out of that hole and will any smoke come out of the hole?
Thanks again.
 
it should not , the firebox is well forward of that tube and the opening up there is quite small. we actually build several models now that just have an open hole in the back for that instead of the tube its not really that signifigant having that tube disconnected IMHO
 
Ok, great, just wanted to make sure it was safe and thanks for helping out on this issue, I thought I was going to have to spring for a new igniter.
 
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