Ok, so some of you know my story. Well, I'm not gonna try and not let this beat me! Anyway #1, I'm an idiot. This is a pic of my chimney at the roof. The flue on the left is my stove in which the SS liner is not cemented in and can be removed. So first question, should I remove the SS liner and inspect it before I go any farther? I say this because when I had the stove out, I noticed 2 golf ball size dents in the SS liner about 2-3 ft above the stove. That concerns me somewhat. My gut feeling is to just get a new SS liner and start fresh.
Dont give up on me yet!
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Dents and scratches aren't a big deal as long as the integrity of the pipe is retained. If it has been smacked to the point you think it might have split the liner, I would sure be checking it out. If its just a dent - it shouldn't be a deal breaker.
Edit: I have no idea of how hard/easy it would be to pull the liner out, but if it is easy it might give you piece of mind to do so.
Edit: I have no idea of how hard/easy it would be to pull the liner out, but if it is easy it might give you piece of mind to do so.
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Can you fit the appropriate size brush down there without much trouble? Would be a good way to judge in my opinion.
Follow your gut. The way the rest of that install was done, ya just gotta know what condition that liner is in.
BB, I'm so glad you guys are here! I want to do this the right way and take it step by step no matter how long it takes me. So, step 1, What type of liner should I buy? The Easy Flex 316 TI or the Heavy Flex 304?
I have a bunch of pics ready for you guys , so fire away! I'm gonna do it this time.
I have a bunch of pics ready for you guys , so fire away! I'm gonna do it this time.
Either one will do the job for ya. The Heavy Flex is going to be stiffer and tougher to get down the chimney. Find out from Woodland what the outside diameter of the Heavy Flex is. You may not be able to get it down the thing because of size and flexibility. Looks like that jog at the smoke chamber is gonna make the job a little harder so the thinner more flexible 316ti liner may end up being the winner.
BTW: Flexible is a relative term with liners. They are all pretty stiff.
BTW: Flexible is a relative term with liners. They are all pretty stiff.
I also know one of my biggest jobs will be to install a block off plate. My lentel sits a few inches above my 30 degree elbow. Is there any reason a block off plate can't be installed at this heighth around this elbow? It's lower than most I've seen on here, but it would work in my application, thanks.
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Do you know who did the install? It looks kinda rough at the top. You could fit a wrapped liner down that flue if you use the 1/4 insulation and the mesh, I hate to see you pull that thing out though, can you use a light to see if the dents are the only problem? By the way is that Freedom insert?
I have to ask, and don't be afraid to put this back in my lap if I am wrong. This is the first time seeing the topside. Why no cap on the clay pipe? That explains the fumes going up the flue. You need to get a stainless cap on that pipe or the heat is going to just head out and at some point, the rain may come in. Also, it looks like that liner could drop a few inches. With the correct angle elbow it looks like that might have solved the bad fit to the stove without an extension. If the liner is not trashed, it seems like this still might work, but perhaps I am missing something? You are there with eyes and hands on the front line.
3 inches to that cap seems tight to me too when I looked at it, but I supposed that cap that is mounted directly on my liner probably doesn't offer a whole lot more breath-ability if any.
For the cost of it, I'd pull it too. Pouring the insulation in is wise also. I would hate to see you pour insulation around a liner you didn't trust and be stuck with it.
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For the cost of it, I'd pull it too. Pouring the insulation in is wise also. I would hate to see you pour insulation around a liner you didn't trust and be stuck with it.
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There was a top plate BG. The nasty one in post #4.
He needs one that is sealed to the top of the flue tiles. Liner kit time.
He needs one that is sealed to the top of the flue tiles. Liner kit time.
webby3650 said:
Well, I know the shop that sub contracted out the install. I just don't feel like dealing with this outfit any longer, so I'm going to tackle it on my own. No matter who did it anyway, I wouldn't be satisfied, so I might as well do it myself. I don't think I'm going to wrap it, but instead use vermiculite or something I can pour alongside the liner. Yes, it's a Freedom Insert.
I had 2 shops come out and quote me on this job. One said no need to insulate the SS liner at all, just stuff regular unfaced pink insulation at the top and at the damper, (I didn't like that answer)and the other I actually liked, but they were expensive and sub contracted out the work anyway, so even though the REP knew what he was talking about, who knows who will come and do the actual job.
Also, when I mentioned Roxul to both, neither had a clue as to what I was talking about.
lctatlp said:
Follow my posts and you'll soon find out! Actually, I've ran into many a problem since taking a close look at my stove/liner set-up. Seems the original installers, did a quick, sloppy job. Anyway, I'm tackling this myself and learning as I go, but sometimes I act before thinking it through and don't know what the h*** I'm doing or talking about.
If the liner is still intact, could he flip the cap and lower the liner so that he can get the correct alignment with a proper elbow going into the flue collar?
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EJL923
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i found a dent about a foot above the stove from when my installer put it in, about a 2" x 1/2" deep. I was worried when i first saw it, but upon further inspection the integrity of the pipe wasnt compromised at all.
My Oslo heats my home said:
Plan on it, don't think I can wrap it, but I'll insualte it somehow. My flue is 8x13 and SS liner is 6 inches, so I don't have any room north to south , but lots east to west.
If you are replacing the liner, check out the DuraLiner product line. It is insulated, then sheathed with an outside layer of stainless. Their round pipe is 6 5/8", but it also comes in oval sections if that makes for an easier install.
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