Tested my pellet basket and have some concerns, although not all bad

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I got the idea in my mind that I wanted to try burning wood pellets in my wood stove insert. I've got a Drolet Escape 1400i that is 2 years old.

I threw together a quick prototype made from an unused deep fryer basket and some perforated sheet steel for baffles. I've burned 2 times now and I'd say I've used 2/3 of a bag of pellets.

The good: These things can throw some heat and easily get into the 600F stove-top range while there are still flames. I got some secondary action when I dampened the air supply, but not as much as with normal wood. I would say that one "load" will give active flames for around 30-45 minutes, followed by another 45 minutes of hot embers with stove-top temps around 300-400.

Pellet usage was actually less than I had anticipated, and I think I could get away with 1/3 to 1/2 a bag a night in colder weather. I'm a 6-11pm (after work) kind of burner.

Prices of pellets are lower than the "brick" fuel that I've used in the past and much more readily available.

The wife liked the idea of just shoveling some more fuel on the fire.

The bad: Reloading can be a challenge. If the flames die out before you reload, getting ignition on the fresh pellets is difficult. Even with the air all the way open and the door cracked, it can still smoulder for a while. Some newspaper and a lighter usually takes care of this.

I have some concerns about soot buildup. Perhaps I'm not getting complete combustion in my efforts to extend the burn and raise stove-top temperatures. I found that closing the air supply to around 25% open seemed to be a sweet spot. After 2/3 of a bag of pellets over a 2 night period, my stove insides (not the glass) look as if they have been freshly painted with flat black spray paint. The firebrick, baffle board and secondary tubes all are covered with a very thin coating of black soot. I also noticed a similar covering on the underside of my chimney cap (from my ground vantage point), but I haven't been up there yet to inspect.

I have decided not to burn any more pellets, but I am curious what the buildup is from? Obviously the pellets have extremely low moisture content, so the typical "wet wood" creosote culprit is not to blame. Is this just the result of incomplete combustion that people have warned about when it comes to pellet baskets? Should I be concerned about this soot and a chimney fire? I just cleaned my chimney last weekend. Like I said, I won't burn any more pellets, but I will be burning my limited supply of cord wood and probably buy some Envi-8 blocks to help through the winter.

I should say that I have never seen this before in my stove and I've burned probably 1 cords of wood and 1 ton of Envi-8 blocks in the past 2 years.

I can take pictures tonight if it helps. Thanks guys!
Dave
 
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Interesting experiment.
 
What type of stove temperatures are you getting on the stove?
 
When the load is fully flaming and I cut the air to around 25%, I can easily get to 550-600F stove top temps. I did have to run the blower at full speed to keep it from climbing higher too. This lasts around 30-40 minutes and then tapers off to around 300-400 when just embers remain. I wasn't loading the basket all the way, so burn times were not super long. These temps are similar to what I typically see when burning regular wood.

These are hardwood pellets, good quality (Green Supreme) for the record.
 
I've owned three pellet stoves. They operate cleanly, but have a blower which blows up through the basket, to ensure complete combustion. I can't imagine that burning them without forced air would be nearly as clean.
 
I suspect you're right Dan, but I'm certainly curious. The Envi-8 blocks that I've used seem not to suffer the same fate, and they're just "big" pellets. I suppose it has to do with surface area and airflow. If I open the air up it could help I guess, but then the heat will all go up the chimney.

It's an experiment, and I am glad I tried. I have seen other people using the baskets, but never heard any similar results.

I also wonder if I'm experiencing a bit of a shoulder season issue too. It's drafting well, but maybe I'm starving it a bit too much for the time of year.
 
I think the blocks you're using probably shed their ashes away from the block and expose fresh burning surface. The pellets pile their ash onto other pellets, which smothers the adjacent pellets. My guess, anyway.
 
Quick epilog to the story:

Removed the pellet basket and burned a regular fire with Envi-8 blocks and some dry cord wood. Quite a bit of the soot seems to have burned off in my stove, at least in the direct path of the intense flames.

Looks like I'll open my wallet wider and stick to the stuff designed for a wood stove.

Dave
 
There have threads in here before on those pellet baskets and the consensus is they are more trouble than they're worth. Since you have a bag of pellets. I can think of something that would be a very good test and possible could help us with newbies.

Try burning some less than seasoned wood that just doesn't want to do what it should. Then experiment with adding pellets and see if you can get it to burn well. That way, when a newbie has problems due to poor wood. We can say get a bag of pellets and throw about this much in the stove and put it in this area and you'll be ok.

Just a suggestion.
 
I'll see how some burn when added to a regular fire. Then try them with some questionable wood.
 
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