Is this old boy worth it?

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Diabel

Minister of Fire
Jan 11, 2008
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Ottawa, ON
I have a chance to pick this up for 50.00. Any idea what the cc's on this unit. Apparently it works like a charm... Would I be able to mod. it so it provides more power than my 170 (i believe it produces 30cc)
 

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Thanks pen!

So from what I can understand....it is slightly bigger from the 170, but the rest is like trying to read something in a foreign language!
 
No foreign language involved. Simple conversation, from basic physics, about some engine parameters.
Seriously, if that's troubling, you might want to check your local library for physics text, and dig for equations re work, torque, rotating devices. Then research how crankcase-scavenged 2-strokes are built and how they operate. Then the rest is just numbers on one side, and understanding on the other.

Spoon-feeding only works for babes.
 
CTYank said:
No foreign language involved. Simple conversation, from basic physics, about some engine parameters.
Seriously, if that's troubling, you might want to check your local library for physics text, and dig for equations re work, torque, rotating devices. Then research how crankcase-scavenged 2-strokes are built and how they operate. Then the rest is just numbers on one side, and understanding on the other.

Spoon-feeding only works for babes.

Thanks CT! That is why I love this forum! A lot of people
are "spoon-fed" here. Thanks to you I got my answer in
10min! If I was to make a trip to local librery......it would
be around X-mas! I think I will pass on that saw since as
you said pretty similar to my 170.
Thanks
 
011 is this a top handle saw?
 
It looks like a top handle...
 

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Diabel said:
It looks like a top handle...

I thought so its a first model of the 200t. The real issue with them imo is the parts are small and harder to work on. Other than that I would love to have one. I think its a 40cc saw so thats a hot rod for top handle. It shold be able to run as well as your 170.
 
smokinjay said:
Diabel said:
It looks like a top handle...

I thought so its a first model of the 200t. The real issue with them imo is the parts are small and harder to work on. Other than that I would love to have one. I think its a 40cc saw so thats a hot rod for top handle. It shold be able to run as well as your 170.

thanks Jay
 
CTYank said:
No foreign language involved. Simple conversation, from basic physics, about some engine parameters.
Seriously, if that's troubling, you might want to check your local library for physics text, and dig for equations re work, torque, rotating devices. Then research how crankcase-scavenged 2-strokes are built and how they operate. Then the rest is just numbers on one side, and understanding on the other.

Spoon-feeding only works for babes.

I suppose you'd do your own brain surgery if you had a tumor. Wouldn't want a surgeon to spoon feed you. Do you fill your cavities?
Not all of us are engineers. We all have different backgrounds, talents and skill sets. I can explain plate tectonics and orographic precipitation to a special needs 14 year old so that he understands it. I can maneuver a raft through class 4 and 5 rapids. I can do the weight and balance of a loaded 737. I can play a 36 string autoharp and sing at church or the local nursing home. I'll bet I've changed more diapers than 90% of the other granddads out there.

But virtually everything I know about chainsaws, harvesting and splitting wood, and burning it properly and safely I learned from this forum because no one here has ever made me afraid to ask questions.... until now.

I thought that is what we are all here for. To learn. To help others. Or both.
 
Kenster said:
CTYank said:
No foreign language involved. Simple conversation, from basic physics, about some engine parameters.
Seriously, if that's troubling, you might want to check your local library for physics text, and dig for equations re work, torque, rotating devices. Then research how crankcase-scavenged 2-strokes are built and how they operate. Then the rest is just numbers on one side, and understanding on the other.

Spoon-feeding only works for babes.

I suppose you'd do your own brain surgery if you had a tumor. Wouldn't want a surgeon to spoon feed you. Do you fill your cavities?
Not all of us are engineers. We all have different backgrounds, talents and skill sets. I can explain plate tectonics and orographic precipitation to a special needs 14 year old so that he understands it. I can maneuver a raft through class 4 and 5 rapids. I can do the weight and balance of a loaded 737. I can play a 36 string autoharp and sing at church or the local nursing home. I'll bet I've changed more diapers than 90% of the other granddads out there.

But virtually everything I know about chainsaws, harvesting and splitting wood, and burning it properly and safely I learned from this forum because no one here has ever made me afraid to ask questions.... until now.

I thought that is what we are all here for. To learn. To help others. Or both.


Could not have said it better....

As for the saw, $50 and its in good running condition, I'd pick that up in a heartbeat...well worth the $$.
 
That's worth every dime of that $50. Go buy it. If you decide you don't want it, then sell it for $55.
 
I had mine for almost 25 years. I kept it in real good condition and just sold it to a friend who loves it (first saw). I got a 42cc Dolmar 420 to replace it. That extra 1 cc apparently makes a saw cut about twice as fast, because the 420 runs circles around a 011. But for $50? I'd own one again.
 
Oops! Didn't notice the "T" at the end. Mine was not a top handle. Same engine, though. Ain't even close to a MS 200. Way lower RPMs, not a screamer at all like the 200, just a nice little saw for its day.
 
Sorry but I do not feel like visiting a local librery on this
one again....
This place is much nicer!
Top handle saw would be for....what? Again, learned from
here limbing saw will have a very low handle (I think) from
what I saw in some pics
 
Top handled saw gives it better balance for when an EXPERIENCED (or pro) operator uses one hand for sawing.
 
Top handle or not, I'd give 50 bux for it if I didn't see something obviously wrong.

pen
 
Diabel said:
Sorry but I do not feel like visiting a local librery on this
one again....
This place is much nicer!
Top handle saw would be for....what? Again, learned from
here limbing saw will have a very low handle (I think) from
what I saw in some pics



I use them for limbing out tree's up to 6-7 inchs. There light easy to transition to your next cut.
 
just had afriend move out there to nobleville boro good saw repair mechanic r vu near him? do yuo guys run huskys out there?
 
I got now so it is a limbing saw. Again, thank you all for
your patience in terms of explaing things to me. I am just
a city guy that loves to burn wood and has a piece of land
on a lake that is covered wih huge trees. I will try to pick
up this saw asap. 50.00 can't go wrong!
Again thanks
 
Diabel said:
I got now so it is a limbing saw.

Just because some guys use it on the ground for limbing don't mean that's what it was designed for. Its a climbing saw. It's a lot more maneuverable when you're 40' up a tree and you can't easily move yourself out of the way of the tail of the saw. Get rid of the tail and you have a lot more maneuverability up there, but they are harder to control in the event of a kickback and more likely to kick in the first place. As Danno said, they are for EXPERIENCED users. That said, I feel comfortable using one myself, but I'd never recommend one to a newbie.
 
Diabel said:
I got now so it is a limbing saw. Again, thank you all for
your patience in terms of explaing things to me. I am just
a city guy that loves to burn wood and has a piece of land
on a lake that is covered wih huge trees. I will try to pick
up this saw asap. 50.00 can't go wrong!
Again thanks

Yes its a limbing saw without the leverage you get with the rear handle saw. Kick back on one of these can be an issue if working above the waist thats when it becomes dangerous.
They say its for in tree use only well not much difference with a tree lying 90 degrees vs 0 degrees. If your not doing bushy tree you probably dont need one.
 
Battenkiller said:
Diabel said:
I got now so it is a limbing saw.

Just because some guys use it on the ground for limbing don't mean that's what it was designed for. Its a climbing saw. It's a lot more maneuverable when you're 40' up a tree and you can't easily move yourself out of the way of the tail of the saw. Get rid of the tail and you have a lot more maneuverability up there, but they are harder to control in the event of a kickback and more likely to kick in the first place. As Danno said, they are for EXPERIENCED users. That said, I feel comfortable using one myself, but I'd never recommend one to a newbie.

You got it. First saw I owned & used on regular basis was my wee Echo 280E Top Handle.Had it since I was barely 18,used loads when I was climbing & pruning.Only has around 8000RPM's,when it finally dies will replace it with 338XP or its equivalent.
 
smokinjay said:
Diabel said:
It looks like a top handle...

I thought so its a first model of the 200t. The real issue with them imo is the parts are small and harder to work on. Other than that I would love to have one. I think its a 40cc saw so thats a hot rod for top handle. It shold be able to run as well as your 170.

The 011 shares nothing with the 200t. Except the brand-name. 020t was the ancestor to the 200t and I don't think they changed much other than the number of zeros in the model number.
 
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