2009 Engalnder 25 PVDC Control Board Schematic

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Murphy118

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OK, other that a post by myself a little while back I have never seen anyone wanting a remote starter for their Englander. What I want to do is have the stove turn on about 1 hour before we (read I) wake up, so that the house will be toasty in the morning, and to turn the stove on an hour or so before we (I) get home.
I'm thinking some sort of electro mechanical gizmo,,,, like a solenoid on a timer to mechanically press the button when a timer trips it,,,, problem is that I would need a very momentary action,,,, simply in and out,,,,,
Or a rotary one,,,,, like a wheel with a cog on it that turns and presses the button as a gear reduction motor turns it,,, also activated by a timer,,,,
Or maybe even simpler----attach a remote switch to the correct joints on the control board that is activated by a timer,,,,,,

or train Quinto, (my yellow lab) to do it,,,,,,

I gotta think there are others out there that would like to have this feature,,,,

John
 
maybe I'm stupid, but couldn't you accomplish that with a programmable tstat?
 
It would be nice, but I'm not sure I've got the desire to listen to my wife complain if I screw the board up :)

To me, the easiest thing to do would be to hook up a momentary relay in parallel to the on switch. Check out the first setup on this page: http://www.the12volt.com/relays/page5.asp

then it's simple to use some sort of timer or even a remote thermostat to control the relay and switch the stove on.

I imagine you could do the same thing with the off button and then hook the whole unit up to a separate thermostat with a larger swing temperature. Then the stove would run in Hi/Low mode until the Low setting increased the room temperature past the higher setting on your swing thermostat. The swing stat could then shut down the stove. :)

Maybe if I find a cheap Englander on Craigslist or one falls in my lap I'll give it a try :)

Let me know what you end up doing.
 
kofkorn said:
It would be nice, but I'm not sure I've got the desire to listen to my wife complain if I screw the board up :)

To me, the easiest thing to do would be to hook up a momentary relay in parallel to the on switch. Check out the first setup on this page: http://www.the12volt.com/relays/page5.asp

then it's simple to use some sort of timer or even a remote thermostat to control the relay and switch the stove on.

I imagine you could do the same thing with the off button and then hook the whole unit up to a separate thermostat with a larger swing temperature. Then the stove would run in Hi/Low mode until the Low setting increased the room temperature past the higher setting on your swing thermostat. The swing stat could then shut down the stove. :)

Maybe if I find a cheap Englander on Craigslist or one falls in my lap I'll give it a try :)

Let me know what you end up doing.
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Hmmm,,,,, I'm gonna look real hard at this,,

I am also looking for a "parts" stove or at least a board to experiment with but haven't found any yet....a guy I work with drew up a Rube Goldberg sketch of a timer activated solenioid pulling a shelf out from under a steel ball, the ball falling on a fulcrum that makes a rod with a little boot on it hit the switch,,,,, kinda funny but damn,, I actually thing it will work!!!!
If i can figure out how,,, i'll post his answer.

John
 
Unfortunately the 25-PDV and the 25-PDVC don't have an On/Off mode when running on a thermostat. They only go in High / Low. This time of year, even low mode is enough to get the house 80 Deg plus during the day time. One of the biggest reasons that I would consider an upgrade is go have the benefit of an On/Off mode.

What we're trying to do here is to give the stove an automatic On / Off capability without purchasing a new stove. Of course warranty would be voided :)
 
Yes,,, the stove is not capapble of using the t-stat to shut it down completely and restart it. I am simply looking ofr a way to have it start on its own with use of a timer.

Maybe if I just set the alarm to 5:00 am,,,, and gently nudge the Mrs. to go push the button,,,,,,,,,,,,

John
 
Murphy118 said:
Yes,,, the stove is not capapble of using the t-stat to shut it down completely and restart it. I am simply looking ofr a way to have it start on its own with use of a timer.

Maybe if I just set the alarm to 5:00 am,,,, and gently nudge the Mrs. to go push the button,,,,,,,,,,,,

John
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Are you sure you even want to try that, it might turn out to be a very bad thing if there be cast iron skillets in the kitchen or other such items ;-) .
 
Murphy118 said:
kofkorn said:
It would be nice, but I'm not sure I've got the desire to listen to my wife complain if I screw the board up :)

To me, the easiest thing to do would be to hook up a momentary relay in parallel to the on switch. Check out the first setup on this page: http://www.the12volt.com/relays/page5.asp

then it's simple to use some sort of timer or even a remote thermostat to control the relay and switch the stove on.

I imagine you could do the same thing with the off button and then hook the whole unit up to a separate thermostat with a larger swing temperature. Then the stove would run in Hi/Low mode until the Low setting increased the room temperature past the higher setting on your swing thermostat. The swing stat could then shut down the stove. :)

Maybe if I find a cheap Englander on Craigslist or one falls in my lap I'll give it a try :)

Let me know what you end up doing.
Click to expand...

Hmmm,,,,, I'm gonna look real hard at this,,

I am also looking for a "parts" stove or at least a board to experiment with but haven't found any yet....a guy I work with drew up a Rube Goldberg sketch of a timer activated solenioid pulling a shelf out from under a steel ball, the ball falling on a fulcrum that makes a rod with a little boot on it hit the switch,,,,, kinda funny but damn,, I actually thing it will work!!!!
If i can figure out how,,, i'll post his answer.

John
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This is how I see this turning out.
 

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